Good point. Hard to slap as low as $25/hour value on things like beers and bbq, driving to the tool store, or playing snugglebunnies.strat81 said:
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Playsinsnow
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Thanks for the replies. I was hoping cranking a high quantity out would yield some payback as I could see spending some time on it. Time is money. If I am not earning it I am thinking of ways to spend it. Best way to make a buck is not to spend it. If I shoot higher quantities, I would definitley do this. The one guy I know who does this, does it for fun. Not my cup of tea to repack the 40 shots I took.
Strats81: Thanks for the math on the 12ga. I shoot 1 1/8s more than anything else presently, standing in the ammo aisle at malwart right now.
Decado: yes. For a reference. Thanks
Hallow points. Gotta make it count!
never shot anything but with my .22
$100 an hour is worth it. Beers and bbq is a plus.
Strats81: Thanks for the math on the 12ga. I shoot 1 1/8s more than anything else presently, standing in the ammo aisle at malwart right now.
Decado: yes. For a reference. Thanks
Hallow points. Gotta make it count!
never shot anything but with my .22$100 an hour is worth it. Beers and bbq is a plus.
BoldAdventure
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I personally don't buy other peoples reloads. I've seen two many guns explode at the range from "someone elses" reload.
HARDTRAILZ
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mikekey said:
I normally would not but a friends dad retired from an alphabet agency and spent his retirement reloading. I had no issues "buying" his. As it was more trading labor for ammo and I knew he packed good loads and always overpaid. Think mainly because he liked us practicing.
Since this shortage though...he seems to be stockpiling and not as eager to share.
Decado said:That improved lethality is sometimes necessary for coyotes! Hate those things.
They have coyotes in Illinois?
Decado
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I wish we didn't. I live out in the country, about 90 minutes northwest of Chicago, and we have problems with them at our farm. They jump the fence into our chicken yard and poach our chickens. At least we can shoot the coyotes (with a Nuisance Removal Permit), the Red Tailed Hawks that also kill our chickens are protected and all we can do is provide cover for the chickens to hide in, but they get some every year.
Playsinsnow
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I have yet to go somewhere that doesnt have a random coyote around at some time of year. Once they locate food, they will not leave until deterred.
Short Bus
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I know some people say not to do trigger work on a defense gun, but I put a Apex Tactical spring kit in my SD9VE a while back and after replying to the thread I'll link, I was selected to test some more parts (mag extension and AEK trigger) I'll make a new thread with a review after I get the parts and make a range trip.
SD Triggers and Mag Extensions Coming Soon From Apex
SD Triggers and Mag Extensions Coming Soon From Apex
RayVoy
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daddyx2
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Weatherby PA-08..........nothing but love for it. From the price ($395.00 out the door) and the feel of the gun. 12 gauge pump, 28 inch barrel, handles up to a 3 inch shell and comes with a factory plug to knock the magazine down to 2 in the tube and one in the pipe, very easy to maintain, and the best parts of a gun that I have not had personally since I was in the military, are a synthetic camoflauge stock, and choke tubes rather than switching out the barrels themselves for different patterns. this has become my turkey/pheasant/deer gun...I was debating between a smith and Wesson M+P police trade in, but it was 200 bucks more than this shotgun, and I figured i'd get more use out of it than I would a handgun. once I get my concealed carry though i'll look back into pistols.
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Short Bus said:$600 for a used M&PThey are only $500 new in my area.
that's what my thoughts were. I was looking at new in the box 1911's in 45 acp, and they are running around 1,200 bucks not including custom grips, flashlight or red laser light, or anything fancy. that however is the pricing for Cabelas, and not a small local named store which im sure would be better priced. and when I asked how many rounds had to be put down the pipe of a M and P before they were traded in the answer was 2,000...myself personally I wouldn't even want to put a round through it until I found out that the slide and the barrel weren't warped or bent and I also noticed that the blueing was worn off where the holsters would have hooked to them. Not what I am willing to drop 600 bucks for. welcome to maine I guess. however for a sig p226, new they only wanted 350, and that was the lowest price for a pistol.
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gmcman said:
Forgive me if I havent read it yet, going backwards. Where's an 8cent round??? TIA.
Since last fall I have only seen .22lr at Wally one time and I am there at least once a week. If I see .22lr now I buy it, and I already have a modest stash. It's like money in the bank. I also reload rifle and pistol and am shocked how much store bought ammo costs these days. If you guys are hunters you better start looking now, don't wait until the night before the season starts
I am still buying my 22LR at a local gun shop. 575 rounds for 20 bucks.
My Rifle is far cheaper to buy MilSurp than it is to reload it, at 0.40 per round shipped to my door. I am still saving the shells, just in case!
My 9, 380, 357, 45, are still only firing store bought loads. I want to get a progressive reloader, but finishing up on the remodel, and not spending more money, are taking priority.
My Rifle is far cheaper to buy MilSurp than it is to reload it, at 0.40 per round shipped to my door. I am still saving the shells, just in case!
My 9, 380, 357, 45, are still only firing store bought loads. I want to get a progressive reloader, but finishing up on the remodel, and not spending more money, are taking priority.
Decado
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Decado said:
Just giving some follow up, I emailed the guy I knew about this and I have not heard anything back. I'm also in a fantasy football league with him and he hasn't been managing his team so I hope that he's okay. Maybe he just fell off the internet. Unfortunately I do not have a non-internet way of contacting him. Sorry for those who did inform me of interest.
HARDTRAILZ
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Just got a couple 100 rnd boxes of 9mm for $23.
Bought a couple 100 rounds of bulk .22 for .05 a round. Guy said he buys it all the time for that, but was a bit cagey on telling me what store. he did say he would let me know next time he went and got more.
Bought a couple 100 rounds of bulk .22 for .05 a round. Guy said he buys it all the time for that, but was a bit cagey on telling me what store. he did say he would let me know next time he went and got more.
Playsinsnow
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Short Bus said:I picked up a H&R Pardner Pump Protector 12ga Shotgun (870 clone) today
This is how it looked when I got it home.....
.....and 15 min. later
Very Nice! Do tell? Did you have the parts laying around or...? I need something smaller the wife can handle lol
Short Bus
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Playsinsnow said:
I don't know about your wife handling a pistol grip 12GA.
I knew I would be picking one up and ordered the grips or ebay. I got lucky and won a auction for $19 for the set. It's a Remington 870 clone so 870 parts fit it (the barrels are NOT interchangeable). I also have a side saddle coming and will order a light soon. After it's all done I should be in it for about $250 (it's on sale for $199 and I got $25 off).
Here's the other goodies I'll be getting
Side saddle
[EBAY]141096050972[/EBAY]
Light setup
[EBAY]121177141297[/EBAY] [EBAY]281129909654[/EBAY]
[EBAY]290950087157[/EBAY] [EBAY]161041565988[/EBAY]
maybe a heat shield later
[EBAY]300940950299[/EBAY]
Playsinsnow
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Hmmm. Might have to adjust the Christmas list lol. Yeah I thought about recoil with pistol grips for her after typing that, she just needs more range time.
That is an awesome price on a great setup. I want one now.
That is an awesome price on a great setup. I want one now.
Grimor
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Short Bus said:I picked up a H&R Pardner Pump Protector 12ga Shotgun (870 clone) today
This is how it looked when I got it home.....
.....and 15 min. later
I did the exact opposite as you, my shotgun only had a pistol grip, so I added a stock. I'm not in the movies, I don't need to shoot from the hip.
Playsinsnow
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Doesn't having a pistol grip make it easier to shoot from the hip? The sighted light is probably the most effective mod I would assume.
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Grimor said:I did the exact opposite as you, my shotgun only had a pistol grip, so I added a stock. I'm not in the movies, I don't need to shoot from the hip.
Nice 88
How do you like the Knoxx stock? I've heard reports of pinching and "face bite" with them.I have narrow stairs with a corner midway, I needed a compact setup to round that corner.
I might look into one of these stocks later
[EBAY]151095417273[/EBAY] [EBAY]331040734128[/EBAY]
HARDTRAILZ
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Nice.I had one of those I got NIB for 150 then traded it for an Eclipse that only needed a battery. Drove it for 12,000 miles...blew it up and sold it for 650 bucks. I woulda liked to keep the gun but think I came out ahead.
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Grimor said:
Love it!
In fact, I AM in the movies ... and I still won't have a shotgun with a pistol-grip-only (PGO) stock.
Well, technically, I'm not IN the movies; I work behind the scenes, training the folks who really ARE in the movies. When I am not making my living as a professional firearms instructor, I work with folks like Samuel L. Jackson and hundreds of others on the set of action movies.
I have been teaching advanced handgun and shotgun shooting skills to government, military, police and other professionals for years, so excuse me if I offer my opinion. No professional no matter how tight the space, would ever resort to a PGO stock. Hitting your target is just too important.
As far as folding stocks such as the Remington or Butler Creek ones pictured, anyone who has ever tried one has HATED it.
I have a Knoxx stock and eventually took it off because I could never get comfortable with it. Some people love them though.
But Grimor's shotgun has one majour advantage. That is one of the very few Remington shotguns that come with a full-length one-piece magazine tube. That solves a LOT of problems. But if it were mine, I would get that Knoxx off there and replace it with an Urbino stock if one wanted a pistol-grip, or a standard Remington or Speedfeed full stock if one didn't want a pistol grip.
Of course, here in Canada, we do have one advantage -- 14" barrels (and shorter) in pumps is perfectly legal, provided it came from the factory in that barrel length, and provided the overall length stays at 26" or longer. My personal bear gun is an 870 Police with a 14" Dlask barrel and a Mesa Tactical Urbino stock. Aside from the custom smoothing of certain action parts, that's it. The more one may need a shotgun in a hurry to save a human life, the less crap one should have hanging off it.
I am sure Sam Jackson would agree too. (In fact, I know he would.)
HARDTRAILZ
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Never understood people bolting crap on to their home defense weapon. I guess tacticool is better the function to some.
Chickenhawk said:
Love it!
In fact, I AM in the movies ... and I still won't have a shotgun with a pistol-grip-only (PGO) stock.
Well, technically, I'm not IN the movies; I work behind the scenes, training the folks who really ARE in the movies. When I am not making my living as a professional firearms instructor, I work with folks like Samuel L. Jackson and hundreds of others on the set of action movies.
I have been teaching advanced handgun and shotgun shooting skills to government, military, police and other professionals for years, so excuse me if I offer my opinion. No professional no matter how tight the space, would ever resort to a PGO stock. Hitting your target is just too important.
As far as folding stocks such as the Remington or Butler Creek ones pictured, anyone who has ever tried one has HATED it.
I have a Knoxx stock and eventually took it off because I could never get comfortable with it. Some people love them though.
But Grimor's shotgun has one majour advantage. That is one of the very few Remington shotguns that come with a full-length one-piece magazine tube. That solves a LOT of problems. But if it were mine, I would get that Knoxx off there and replace it with an Urbino stock if one wanted a pistol-grip, or a standard Remington or Speedfeed full stock if one didn't want a pistol grip.
Of course, here in Canada, we do have one advantage -- 14" barrels (and shorter) in pumps is perfectly legal, provided it came from the factory in that barrel length, and provided the overall length stays at 26" or longer. My personal bear gun is an 870 Police with a 14" Dlask barrel and a Mesa Tactical Urbino stock. Aside from the custom smoothing of certain action parts, that's it. The more one may need a shotgun in a hurry to save a human life, the less crap one should have hanging off it.
I am sure Sam Jackson would agree too. (In fact, I know he would.)
J/C - what kind of problems happen with aftermarket magazine tube extensions on the Remington?
Grimor
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I like the knoxx now that I am used to it. you have to train yourself not to go for the cheek weld to sight down the barrel. otherwise it'll come back and get ya in the face.
the recoil reduction let's me get back on target quick and I can hit what I'm aiming at out to 20 yards consistently. not my favorite thing to shoot, and I do keep the handguns out more than the shotgun for home, but I feel comfortable using it for home defense if it comes up
the recoil reduction let's me get back on target quick and I can hit what I'm aiming at out to 20 yards consistently. not my favorite thing to shoot, and I do keep the handguns out more than the shotgun for home, but I feel comfortable using it for home defense if it comes up
HARDTRAILZ said:
All else equal, I want the cooler looking firearm. Key phrase is all else equal. There are some guys who go mall ninja and just are tools, but then the flip side of the coin are the guys who say that you aren't supposed to appreciate or even notice what something looks like - only how it functions. Maybe I'm assigning too extreme of a statement to those guys, but that's how it comes across to me.
I've trained with Jeff Bloovman from Armed Dynamics. His G19 is functional no question, but it's ugly as hell! And this is coming from a guy who doesn't think stock Glocks are ugly! I will be straight up that I would be hesitant to do that to my firearm just based on cosmetics. Does that make me a tacticool tool? I dunno
strat81
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xtitan1 said:
Sometimes the magazine spring or follower can get stuck at the point where the factory mag tube and extension meet, thus causing feeding problems. This isn't specific to the 870 - any shotgun with a mag extension can have that problem. This is why it's important to stick with quality mag extensions.