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[Mounce]

That puts me on such a teeter totter lol. I'd like to see signs but then again I want a good cutoff.

-I tried to tell someone about projectors yesterday and he had absolutely no clue what I was talking about.

 

[BlazingTrails]

IMO performance ALWAYS trumps looks. I will never sacrifice safety for looks.

 

[Sparky]

Sometimes I miss the squirrel finders in my old projectors on my old car but its OK.

 

[Sib]

Ok so just got my trs hids in and have a question. I prolly won't install until it gets a little warmer and I can wash her but I was just hooking up the relays with the ballasts, etc.

Anyways, there is a male plug on each igniter and then two females. I know the bulbs plugs into one but where does the male and other female plug go? I know the male plug (oem input) coming off the relay goes to the plug on the headlight.

So, where do I plug the male and female connectors that are coming from the igniters?

Thanks.

 

[dmanns67]

Ok so just got my trs hids in and have a question. I prolly won't install until it gets a little warmer and I can wash her but I was just hooking up the relays with the ballasts, etc.

Anyways, there is a male plug on each igniter and then two females. I know the bulbs plugs into one but where does the male and other female plug go? I know the male plug (oem input) coming off the relay goes to the plug on the headlight.

So, where do I plug the male and female connectors that are coming from the igniters?

Thanks.

You should have (2) male ballast inputs and (1) female input which is from the OE headlight. You will also have (3) ring terminals. (2) ring terminals are for the chassis ground and the other is for the battery 12v power supply. Below is a link to a couple diagrams and a how-to video for a 9006 relay harness.

Are you talking about the male and female pig tails coming off of the ballasts? If so, each of those connect to the pig tails coming off of the 9006 HID bulb. It would be helpful if you could snap some pics of what you are talking about if I am not being clear. Hope this helps.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/diy-installation-guides/xenon-harness-guide.html

 

[Sib]

Here is a pic. The plugs I'm talking about are at the bottom and come off of the igniters.

I know one of the plugs off the igniters is for the bulbs.

 

[dmanns67]

Here is a pic. The plugs I'm talking about are at the bottom and come off of the igniters.

I know one of the plugs off the igniters is for the bulbs.

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Ok. Thats appears to be their new XB35 relay harness. I was not aware they moved their ignitors external of the ballast. Mine is the same as the link I posted earlier.

It appears that the relay harness is the same, but you have the ballasts already hooked up to the harness. What do the pig tails look like coming off of the HID bulbs?

 

[Sib]

Ok. Thats appears to be their new XB35 relay harness. I was not aware they moved their ignitors external of the ballast. Mine is the same as the link I posted earlier.

It appears that the relay harness is the same, but you have the ballasts already hooked up to the harness. What do the pig tails look like coming off of the HID bulbs?

This plug is part of the igniters. From the previous pic the plug that has the yellow on it and the plug with the red and black wires that come off the igniter as well are the ones I'm confused about.

 

[dmanns67]

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This plug is part of the igniters. From the previous pic the plug that has the yellow on it and the plug with the red and black wires that come off the igniter as well are the ones I'm confused about.

I guess the bulb it what is in the cardboard? Did you order the 9006 HID kit? That appears to the connection for a H1 bulb. Definitely does not appear to be a 9006 kit to me. Any more pics of the bulbs themselves, the base of the bulb, and any pig tails coming off of the bulb?

 

[Mounce]

That second set of wires going through the grommet (ones in black mesh) would be for hooking the ballast up to OEM wires on headlights like ours where the plug is inside. Use the one for the driver side, plug the 9006 plug into the stock wire inside then plug it into the input for the relay. If you want to get rid of the one on the passenger side you can either cut the wires or cut the grommet to get the wires out and remove them.

Or you cold leave him hanging, but I wouldn't.

 

[Sib]

I guess the bulb it what is in the cardboard? Did you order the 9006 HID kit? That appears to the connection for a H1 bulb. Definitely does not appear to be a 9006 kit to me. Any more pics of the bulbs themselves, the base of the bulb, and any pig tails coming off of the bulb?

Yes bulb is still in cardboard. I did order the 9006 kit. I will take another pic in a little bit. There is a plug coming off the relay that is supposed to connect to OEM input. I assume that I can plug that into either driver or passenger side correct?

That second set of wires going through the grommet (ones in black mesh) would be for hooking the ballast up to OEM wires on headlights like ours where the plug is inside. Use the one for the driver side, plug the 9006 plug into the stock wire inside then plug it into the input for the relay. If you want to get rid of the one on the passenger side you can either cut the wires or cut the grommet to get the wires out and remove them.

Or you cold leave him hanging, but I wouldn't.

Like I mentioned above there is a plug coming out of relay harness that has a sticker tab on it that says OEM input so should I hook that up to the stock plug?

It looked like I had some extra wires. I will take a more in depth look in a little bit to make sure everything in have hooked up is correct.

Worst case scenario I'll just call TRS and ask and report back.

 

[dmanns67]

That second set of wires going through the grommet (ones in black mesh) would be for hooking the ballast up to OEM wires on headlights like ours where the plug is inside. Use the one for the driver side, plug the 9006 plug into the stock wire inside then plug it into the input for the relay. If you want to get rid of the one on the passenger side you can either cut the wires or cut the grommet to get the wires out and remove them.

Or you cold leave him hanging, but I wouldn't.

There should be absolutely no cutting what so ever. He has two male and one female coming from each igiter. One for the OE plug and one for the HID. Still leaves one more plug.

Can you take another pic of everything hooked up on the floor including the HID bulbs. That might give us a better picture of where we are at. I am not too famliar with the new XB line.

 

[Sib]

Here's the bulbs I got.




This one has a the plug that says OEM input coming from the relay.




Here is one with the igniters plugged into ballast and the bulb plugged in to a plug coming from igniter.




Here is a pic of the two plugs I don't know what to do with...

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But the one plug that runs through the grommet of course runs from stock plug to ballast.. But since using relay kit.. The stock plug would go to relay kit then to ballast.. So essentially you just use the plug through grommet to go from stock plug to the relay harness..

Or you could do away with the plug that goes through grommet.. And take the relay plug through grommet to the stock plug??

I don't remember how I hooked everything up..

 

[Mounce]

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But the one plug that runs through the grommet of course runs from stock plug to ballast.. But since using relay kit.. The stock plug would go to relay kit then to ballast.. So essentially you just use the plug through grommet to go from stock plug to the relay harness..

My point exactly.

One on the passenger side can be cut off since it won't be going to anything.

 

[Sib]

Correct me if I'm wrong.. But the one plug that runs through the grommet of course runs from stock plug to ballast.. But since using relay kit.. The stock plug would go to relay kit then to ballast.. So essentially you just use the plug through grommet to go from stock plug to the relay harness..

Or you could do away with the plug that goes through grommet.. And take the relay plug through grommet to the stock plug??

I don't remember how I hooked everything up..

My point exactly.

One on the passenger side can be cut off since it won't be going to anything.

Oh man sorry now I'm really confused. Lol. Maybe it will make more sense as to what you guys said if I take headlight out and look.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Lol it will be alright man.. Okay let's start with just the hid kit.. ..

You have a ballast, igniter, and bulb. Correct?
Your stock plug (which is inside the headlight housing) goes to the ballast via the set of wires with the 9006 ends that go through the grommet. Then the ballast connects to the ignigters.. Then bulbs to ignigters through the plugs that go through the :grommet also.

Does that all make sense?

 

[Mounce]

No, that wouldn't help lol.

That extra wire with a connector on each end...
It's purpose is to plug into the stock wire, then into the ballast.

Since you're using a wiring harness, the one extra wire on the driver side will plug into the stock bulb plug, then plug into the plug on the harness that says "OEM input."

The one on the passenger side will be unused and can be removed if you don't want an extra wire in the way.

 

[dmanns67]

I would advise hooking everything up on the vehicle prior to cutting ANYTHING.

Looking at your pics, it appears that the female plug with the red/black wires is where the OE headlight plug will go. From what I can tell, the male plug would hook up to the ballast, but since you have a relay harness, the male plug will NOT be used on either end. I would just wrap the connector up with some electrical tape versus cutting anything.

 

[Mounce]

The male plug on driver side will go to the "OEM input" on harness. think of it as an extension.

 

[dmanns67]

The male plug on driver side will go to the "OEM input" on harness. think of it as an extension.

That makes no sense. The input for the 9006 headlight is a male plug. Thats why the female plugs with the red/black wire will be the OE inputs. Mine only had one for the driver's side, but his has two. Might as well hook them both up.

As for the male plug you speak of, that would be hooked up to the ballast if it was not for the relay harness. Does that make sense or are we all jacked up

 

[Sib]

That makes no sense. The input for the 9006 headlight is a male plug. Thats why the female plugs with the red/black wire will be the OE inputs. Mine only had one for the driver's side, but his has two. Might as well hook them both up.

As for the male plug you speak of, that would be hooked up to the ballast if it was not for the relay harness. Does that make sense or are we all jacked up

Lol. Yeah it's starting to make more sense. If I don't plug the male connector for the drivers side into the OEM input connector, what goes into the OEM input connector?

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Does this help at all?


Sorry for the kids writing skills.. Got fat fingers.. Lmao

 

[Sib]

Does this help at all?


Sorry for the kids writing skills.. Got fat fingers.. Lmao

Makes perfect sense. So the other male plug I just don't use then right?


BTW...thanks for all the help from all y'all!

 

[Midnyteryder196]

So u only have 1 oem input on the relay harness correct?
If so then you will connect driver side extension cable just like in the picture.. And since the relay harness goes to both Dr. And pass ballasts. Then you would not use the extension cable on the pass side as mounce n David was trying to say.

 

[Sib]

So u only have 1 oem input on the relay harness correct?
If so then you will connect driver side extension cable just like in the picture.. And since the relay harness goes to both Dr. And pass ballasts. Then you would not use the extension cable on the pass side as mounce n David was trying to say.

That is correct. One OEM input off of relay harness. Makes perfect sense!

Did you use screws to mount your ballast and/or relay or 3M tape with some zip ties?

 

[Mounce]

So u only have 1 oem input on the relay harness correct?
If so then you will connect driver side extension cable just like in the picture.. And since the relay harness goes to both Dr. And pass ballasts. Then you would not use the extension cable on the pass side as mounce was trying to say.

YES THANK YOU FOR YOUR AWESOME DRAWING!

See what I'm saying now Manns? If I didn't know and was guessing I wouldn't tell someone to slice up wires (just the red and black on the passenger side) on something that cost over $100. Either way he can leave it and it'll be no problem, it'll just be in the way and not getting used.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

That is correct. One OEM harness. Makes perfect sense!

Did you use screws to mount your ballast and/or relay or 3M tape with some zip ties?

Pretty sure 3m tape in the spot on the header panel behind the headlights facing the engine compartment

 

[dmanns67]

Still confused on what you are calling the OEM harness. You have (2) 9006 male plugs and (2) 9005 male plugs. What are you referring to as the OE harness?

I still believe the male plugs on each end of the harness is for the ballasts if the harness was not present. Basically like the diagram below. Two male inputs for each ballast and one female input the for OE headlight plug. It appears that his is set up to be able to plug in both OE headlight inputs.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

He's referring to the relay harness I believe.. Says oem on one plug.. That would go to the headlight plug in the headlight housing..

 

[dmanns67]

He's referring to the relay harness I believe.. Says oem on one plug.. That would go to the headlight plug in the headlight housing..

Oh ok. I see the pic now. I have been referencing the overall pic of the harness laid out on the floor. The "input to OE plug" wire was hidden behind all the wires coming from each of the cube relays

Your diagram shows the male end going to the OEM relay which is why I was asking what you were referring to since the 9006 inputs are male too.

 

[Mounce]

The extra wires that go through the grommet, one set is for the bulb, the other set are extensions in his case, or could even be not used. Driver side extension goes to the "OEM input," passenger side goes nowhere. That's what I'm talking about.

 

[Sib]

Still confused on what you are calling the OEM harness. You have (2) 9006 male plugs and (2) 9005 male plugs. What are you referring to as the OE harness?

I still believe the male plugs on each end of the harness is for the ballasts if the harness was not present. Basically like the diagram below. Two male inputs for each ballast and one female input the for OE headlight plug. It appears that his is set up to be able to plug in both OE headlight inputs.

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Meant to say OEM Input (edited post from above) which is coming off relay harness. Sorry for the first pic. It was hidden behind the relay.

I saw the same pic with instructions from the relay. Wish they had something posted with the igniters too.

I get it now. Geesh. Good thing for you guys. This is just an example as to why I think I should wait to do a retrofit.

 

[dmanns67]

Blazed I got what you were saying about the female plug for the OE headlight plug input, that makes sense.

I was confused about Midnyt's pic of the male plug being the OE input.

Mounce, I think we are saying the samething. Now that I have seen the plug designated as OE plug input, I am starting to think that neither the male or female plug with be used on either end. I say that because if you take away the harness, you would need the female plug to go to the OE headlight plug on each side. The male plug would need to plug into the ballast. Of course the third female plug would go to the HID itself.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

I'm pretty sure we are all on the same page lol.. Just different ways of explaining it..

 

[Mounce]

I'm glad we're getting close to being on the same page lol.

He can still use the one on the driver side and not have to worry about passing a third set of wires through the factory cap/grommet.

 

[CaptainKD]

Are you guys building a spaceship in here?

 

[Mounce]

Yeah, we're almost done.

 

[Sib]

Are you guys building a spaceship in here?

As long as I can add these new lights to it I'm down for building a spaceship.

 

[Mounce]

As long as I can add these new lights to it I'm down for building a spaceship.

Retrofit a spaceship....I'm down.