so who still uses the old site?

[Jman423]

Operation Boy Scout it is....

Wow, I see that operational name getting all sorts of bad press.

What does it SAY about a site where nobody wants to be a public moderator - just sneak around and anonymously off people in the dark?

It says that we are a bigger threat then they like to admit. They know as soon as we find out who is sneaking around doing the dirty work, their job is going to be much harder. Look at what happened with the determined mod that acted just the same as tinyjohnson is now... he did it for a short period then came here begging us to leave him alone. Combined with our relentless pursuit to actually help people, he also started to see the ways of Vertical Scope. If my memory serves me correctly, the other mod, at that time, was also just about to come join the private conversations here, but he decided to instead speak through the first defector.

As far as the stats go, we've become self sufficient in terms of new registrations and traffic sources. For a while, TrailVoy was one of the main sources of traffic and new members, but that was due mostly to the fact that we needed to be sure that people were helped appropriately. Now, TrailVoy isn't even in the top 10 in terms of traffic sources for GMTNation. Hell, even TBSSOwners is in the top 10 along with the big 3 search engines, and a LOT of Tapatalk users. ORTB was in the top 10 as well.

 

[Ghoster]

As far as the stats go, we've become self sufficient in terms of new registrations and traffic sources. For a while, TrailVoy was one of the main sources of traffic and new members, but that was due mostly to the fact that we needed to be sure that people were helped appropriately. Now, TrailVoy isn't even in the top 10 in terms of traffic sources for GMTNation. Hell, even TBSSOwners is in the top 10 along with the big 3 search engines, and a LOT of Tapatalk users. ORTB was in the top 10 as well.

And I tell everyone about the site that I imagined, designed, built, maintain, own, and control with an iron fist! So thats gotta put me in the top 10 too.





Now thats funny right there.
Even I couldn't stop laughing.

 

[The_Roadie]

Top 10 among the delusionals:

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[Ghoster]

Top 10 among the delusionals:

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I thought it was sold to May????

 

[MAY03LT]

Maybe if we can identify the most popular reasons their members come here (either by chance or as the result of our communication with them), we can improve these stats.

Didn't we have a "How did you hear about us" thread? I remember something like that because the staff was having to edit out the names of the referrers to keep their identities a secret.

It got to the point of shills inviting other shills

I had to stop when I invited myself.

They'll use our exit strategy to forever attempt to make us appear to be the bad guys

Remember this gem?

They stated that they wanted to the sites to co-exist however upon their exit, maliciously changed many members’ signatures and deleted a lot of posts from the site. They also disabled software features and plugins on the back-end and changed settings for the board before they left.

The posts that were deleted were the ones from those of us who got a little carried away during our exit. Nothing technical/helpful/etc was deleted. If anything, the deleted posts resulted in less work for the admins. We're still the bad guys though.

It says that we are a bigger threat then they like to admit. They know as soon as we find out who is sneaking around doing the dirty work, their job is going to be much harder. Look at what happened with the determined mod that acted just the same as tinyjohnson is now... he did it for a short period then came here begging us to leave him alone. Combined with our relentless pursuit to actually help people, he also started to see the ways of Vertical Scope. If my memory serves me correctly, the other mod, at that time, was also just about to come join the private conversations here, but he decided to instead speak through the first defector.

What really tee'd me off about those particular guys was that they were just pretending to be technical guys. One went from posting about using the trip reset button to reset the change oil light into an ignition switch guru almost overnight. I remember googling their replies and constantly getting hits that were posts from the roadie. They even used his roadiestyle words. How someone could do that is, well, inconceivable.

Another fun fact - we learned who the other mod was, and not a single staff member has ever told anyone or has held that against him to this day. I've even chimed in on some of his threads. The point of this is that we don't hold personal grudges against those who willingly or unwillingly helped the other site. If magicjohnson gave up and joined this site there wouldn't be any bad blood - he would of course have to follow the rules of site which to a degree includes not being a peckerhead toward other members.

.....control with an iron fist!

#yolo

 

[Hatchet]

#yolo

He should be banned for this comment....

 

[Ghoster]

#yolo

ok...so maybe it is more of a pewter fist?

He should be banned for this comment....

We ban him all the time. He knows where the back door is!

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Then lock it!

 

[Jman423]

Didn't we have a "How did you hear about us" thread? I remember something like that because the staff was having to edit out the names of the referrers to keep their identities a secret.

Yeah, I think I remember that. Could have been in the introduction threads too.

I had to stop when I invited myself.

Remember this gem?

They stated that they wanted to the sites to co-exist however upon their exit, maliciously changed many members’ signatures and deleted a lot of posts from the site. They also disabled software features and plugins on the back-end and changed settings for the board before they left.

The posts that were deleted were the ones from those of us who got a little carried away during our exit. Nothing technical/helpful/etc was deleted. If anything, the deleted posts resulted in less work for the admins. We're still the bad guys though.

Yeah, some members got a little carried away, and the posts we were deleting were from some of the over excited members that were happy that they were able to escape the advertisements. We didn't delete any content that would have been helpful to a member. I caught shit because I deleted posts that people made bashing the site and VS. The one thing they did get correct is that I altered, at the request of each and every member, some signatures to make mention of the new site.

The things they claim I disabled or turned off were turned off long before we left... that was the point of me trying to make improvements over there. They didn't know how bad it was until I was gone and they had to have someone else come in and figure out what needed attention and what was broken. If we had truly sabotaged them, don't you think they would have tried to sue us? That's why the site is in Drayton's name!

What really tee'd me off about those particular guys was that they were just pretending to be technical guys. One went from posting about using the trip reset button to reset the change oil light into an ignition switch guru almost overnight. I remember googling their replies and constantly getting hits that were posts from the roadie. They even used his roadiestyle words. How someone could do that is, well, inconceivable.

Another fun fact - we learned who the other mod was, and not a single staff member has ever told anyone or has held that against him to this day. I've even chimed in on some of his threads. The point of this is that we don't hold personal grudges against those who willingly or unwillingly helped the other site. If magicjohnson gave up and joined this site there wouldn't be any bad blood - he would of course have to follow the rules of site which to a degree includes not being a peckerhead toward other members.

And to this day we still don't care who is trying to clean the place up... we just know it will NEVER be what it was. If we had the ability to demand that all of our posts be removed from their database, their site would contain next to nothing helpful to anyone.

But hey, here we are, it all worked out for the best.

 

[Hatchet]

ok...so maybe it is more of a pewter fist?



We ban him all the time. He knows where the back door is!

So many comments... So little time...

 

[Robbabob]

All my posts over there have been deleted, and there is no trace of my pm's. betting by littledick... I still have an active account, though

far as I can see, Chatterx only has one, but not the best one, though... Edit: found the posts

Nice shout out to The_Roadie
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[Fire06]

Sure thinks alot of himself.

 

[Blckshdw]

All my posts over there have been deleted, and there is no trace of my pm's. betting by littledick... I still have an active account, though

far as I can see, Chatterx only has one, but not the best one, though... Edit: found the posts

Nice shout out to The_Roadie
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You were just added to the global ignore list with the rest of us who weren't banned.

 

[blazinlow89]

You were just added to the global ignore list with the rest of us who weren't banned.

I made a shill account and it was banned within a few minutes. So the system no longer auto approves new users. Now I wonder if I was found out through IP address or what.

 

[Blckshdw]

I'm betting the IP address is what they used. I just signed up on SSOwners the other day, and it took 2 days for them to approve my account. At first I thought I missed a setting somewhere, cuz I couldn't do a damn thing!! :banghead:

 

[MAY03LT]

All my posts over there have been deleted, and there is no trace of my pm's. betting by littledick... I still have an active account, though

So that's why page 3 is listed but clicking on it takes me back to page one. Welcome to global ignore.

So the system no longer auto approves new users.

I wonder how long the wait is now.

it took 2 days for them to approve my account

Maybe one of the staff members wasn't aware of the approval queue.

Before anyone asks - it's not a shot at anyone but myself

 

[Mark20]

I like how everything is marked as solved even with no replies. My anti spam replies are now hidden, leaving the spam to run the show. I'm listed as the last person on the topic though. They're happier to let spam hang around. The depths of VS' depravity know no bounds.

 

[chatterx]

This is for one particular Admin.

Just want to say Hi Stew! Because we all know you are watching.

Thanks for the great members that have jumped ship from your wreck of a site!

Jason

 

[Ghoster]

I like how everything is marked as solved even with no replies. My anti spam replies are now hidden, leaving the spam to run the show. I'm listed as the last person on the topic though. They're happier to let spam hang around. The depths of VS' depravity know no bounds.

I would think they don't delete posts, just hide them. All posts count toward your post counts, the higher the count the more the relevance. A bot doesn't care if its spam or not.

 

[The_Roadie]

I'm betting the IP address is what they used.

Trailvoy (and other sites, to be sure) use cookies AND IP address AND email address (and other secret sauce) to feed the ban or ignore filter.

To run a proper shill, you have to choose a username unrelated to any of us bad folks, use a new throwaway email address with the same attributes, delete all trailvoy cookies, and run through an anonymous proxy for all your visits. You can be sure this recent activity has them all on edge, and all new sign-ups are going to be scrutinized for a while. Let the sleeping bear go back to sleep.

If they're sophisticated, they may have the IPs of the common anonymizing services mapped out and also banned. You might have to set up your own or have somebody in the industry do it for you. Or VPN to your workplace and tunnel in from there, but that has risks.

 

[jfkmk]

Geez, Roadie, sounds like an awful lot of work to visit a dead site!

 

[The_Roadie]

As everybody knows, we do it for the members who need help. That it annoys Vertical Scope is merely icing on the cake.

 

[Robbabob]

Geez, Roadie, sounds like an awful lot of work to visit a dead site!

As Roadie says, we do it to help fellow owners, as we (I) was once lost, but now I am found, so shall they be.

 

[Robbabob]

Can't seem to find the street racer prick, MJ. Perhaps he was banned (again) for his lack of tact...

 

[The_Roadie]

Can't seem to find the street racer prick, MJ. Perhaps he was banned (again) for his lack of tact...

If they promoted him to be the new secret mod, he can log in using stealth mode and not be seen. Perfect tactic for the chickenshit.

On another subject, we're only 27 months old, and have 20% of their post count with about 5% the membership numbers. Guess we got the active ones, eh?

I'm still astonished anybody contributes money to those hogs, thinking they're benefitting some "community" with their gift. It's like throwing coins in the hat of Bernie Madoff.

 

[Robbabob]

It's like throwing coins in the hat of Bernie Madoff.

stop it, stop it, you're killing me!

 

[IllogicTC]

I'm still astonished anybody contributes money to those hogs, thinking they're benefitting some "community" with their gift. It's like throwing coins in the hat of Bernie Madoff.

I never donated to there, but I have donated here because:

1.) It doesn't require membership to do everything. Allowing people to lurk allows them to become comfortable and acclimated to the place before making an account and acknowledging their presence. Also cuts down a bit on repeat questions.

2.) All the major enthusiasts moved here, so this is already the premier resource as I see it.

3.) This site doesn't already get all Scrooge McDuck in ads alone. One at the top, one at the bottom, enough to help cover bandwidth is about all I see.

 

[The_Roadie]

It just struck me.....the way one normally gets invited to be a mod is to prove that one cares about the mission of the site, and has a bit of empathy or technical talent, and also the time to devote to care and feeding of the noob crop.

If the goofballs asking to be mods back there weren't feeling so all-important and entitled, they would have ALREADY been caring for the noobs, especially by welcoming them in the Intro treads. But no.......it's just tumbleweeds. And the Admin is an asshat - asking who wants to be a mod instead of looking to see who has those important attributes it takes to be a good mod. Unfortunately for him - we got 'em all.

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[IllogicTC]

"Hello IllogicTC,

It appears that you have not posted on our forums in several weeks. Please take a few moments to perhaps ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums. Thanks!"

Oh no, please, help us clear out the cobwebs! Feel free to wander around and ring up our advertising invoice to the companies involved!

A necessary evil, but I'm going to prowl for some potential recruiting.

Also, the registration no longer allows "GMTNation"

 

[IllogicTC]

You liked my last post, now check this. You have been immortalized by the rising doucher of the OS.

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[blazinlow89]

I never donated to there, but I have donated here because:

1.) It doesn't require membership to do everything. Allowing people to lurk allows them to become comfortable and acclimated to the place before making an account and acknowledging their presence. Also cuts down a bit on repeat questions.

2.) All the major enthusiasts moved here, so this is already the premier resource as I see it.

3.) This site doesn't already get all Scrooge McDuck in ads alone. One at the top, one at the bottom, enough to help cover bandwidth is about all I see.

I donated when it was run by a helpful staff who used the money for the good of the site. They also sent decals.

You liked my last post, now check this. You have been immortalized by the rising doucher of the OS.

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Wait, did he even read the post.

This gives me a sneaky idea, however it would be better reserved for PM or the OT thread for premo users (yes i need to donate again).

 

[The_Roadie]

... a helpful staff who used the money for the good of the site. They also sent decals....

That time is long gone. They continue to LIE about the stickers, and the "good of the site" and all that rot. Lousy, stinking, liars. They even keep billing you for the premium membership if they BAN YOU!

We don't quite believe in auto-renew. They DEPEND on it!

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[jrSS]

These guys on trailvoy facebook page hating on me. Bahahaha..protecting there pathetic trailvoy. We've got drama here on gmtnation

 

[Blckshdw]

... ya pickle headed troll...

Well I guess he told you!!!! I'm so glad I'm not on FB

 

[blazinlow89]

Well I guess he told you!!!! I'm so glad I'm not on FB

Oh, cmon its fun. Besides you are missing Kyle being a dirty little post whore right now.

 

[jrSS]

Well I guess he told you!!!! I'm so glad I'm not on FB

Retards I tell ya

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Oh, cmon its fun. Besides you are missing Kyle being a dirty little post whore right now.

Oopsy..

And he blocked me after admitting he would have changed it to gmtnation if fb would have let him.

 

[High Voltage]

That time is long gone. They continue to LIE about the stickers, and the "good of the site" and all that rot. Lousy, stinking, liars.

I still get alot of request for decals! I will NEVER make another trailvoy decal!!!

 

[blazinlow89]

Oopsy..

And he blocked me after admitting he would have changed it to gmtnation if fb would have let him.

World War Trailvoy.

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

I can't even see the group or any of my comments. Its Luke or never existed...