How To - Replace Broken Vent Valve in the fuel tank!! P0445

BlazingTrails

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Apr 27, 2014
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I have seen this come up before and have now experienced this problem myself, SO I decided to go ahead and do a write up since I had to invent a repair anyway. As far as I know I am the first person to do this, so others may have better ideas this is just what I came up with.

Some of you know that my drive shaft broke and beat the heat shield on the gas tank which broke my vent valve. (pictured Below)

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As you can see it was snapped right off, and there is really no way to repair it, I even tried gluing it back together with loctite 404 last week to no avail. So I started searching and to my surprise GM wants you to buy an entire new fuel tank for this little broken valve :duh: I did however find a universal vent valve made by Doorman part# 911-001.

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I started out by removing the old valve by cutting the ring with a razor knife, it is actually really easy to cut. I decided to pull the pump assembly out to check it since I started having problems with my truck stalling when coming to a stop. I found a LOT of little green pieces and the bottom half of the vent valve in the tank.


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I took some precise measurements and determined what I would do next. I took a 7/8 drill bit and drilled a hole in the base of what USED to be the vent valve. Then I took a rasp and took the hole out to the first rib on the base, you can see it in the photo.

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Next I took the new vent valve part # 911-001 and pressed it into the old base and it actually snapped in and was tight. You need to remove the tension ring and o-ring from the new part before inserting it.

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At this point it was time to seal it all up, I had some 4000 PSI epoxy made by Super Glue that turned out to be great. Make sure the nipple is pointed in between the 2 dashes on the tank so it will line up with the hose.

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After the epoxy has set cut the nipple of off the old vent valve. Then insert the cut side of the nipple into the hose leaving enough space for the locking clip on the fitting.

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This is the finished product, it is stronger than the oem fitting and sealed back up nicely.

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On a side note I found another shrader valve at the fuel tank to check fuel pressure, I did not know that one was there. :thumbsup:

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So far my truck is running much better and seems to be fixed. A used tank from a local yard was $150, and the valve I got only costs $18.

I hope someone will find this helpful!

:2thumbsup:
 

Capote

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Nice write up Brandon and awesome way of finding a solution to come up with a unique fix
 

Robbabob

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Great write up! Hope I never have to change it, but will be glad for this article if I do. What skill level would you put on this, out of 5?
 
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BlazingTrails

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Robbabob said:
Great write up! Hope I never have to change it, but will be glad for this article if I do. What skill level would you put on this, out of 5?
Thank you bud! I would personally give it a 3 I think this fuel tank is one of the easiest to drop and the rest is just basic drilling cutting. :yes:


BTW this is the 3rd time I have dropped my tank for various reasons.
 
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Mark20

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Great write up.

This is where the Nation's community shines. I hope never to have to do this job but I've filed where the info is in the back of my mind.
 

Redbeard

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Jan 26, 2013
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I have seen this come up before and have now experienced this problem myself, SO I decided to go ahead and do a write up since I had to invent a repair anyway. As far as I know I am the first person to do this, so others may have better ideas this is just what I came up with.

Some of you know that my drive shaft broke and beat the heat shield on the gas tank which broke my vent valve. (pictured Below)

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As you can see it was snapped right off, and there is really no way to repair it, I even tried gluing it back together with loctite 404 last week to no avail. So I started searching and to my surprise GM wants you to buy an entire new fuel tank for this little broken valve :duh: I did however find a universal vent valve made by Doorman part# 911-001.

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I started out by removing the old valve by cutting the ring with a razor knife, it is actually really easy to cut. I decided to pull the pump assembly out to check it since I started having problems with my truck stalling when coming to a stop. I found a LOT of little green pieces and the bottom half of the vent valve in the tank.


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I took some precise measurements and determined what I would do next. I took a 7/8 drill bit and drilled a hole in the base of what USED to be the vent valve. Then I took a rasp and took the hole out to the first rib on the base, you can see it in the photo.

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Next I took the new vent valve part # 911-001 and pressed it into the old base and it actually snapped in and was tight. You need to remove the tension ring and o-ring from the new part before inserting it.

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At this point it was time to seal it all up, I had some 4000 PSI epoxy made by Super Glue that turned out to be great. Make sure the nipple is pointed in between the 2 dashes on the tank so it will line up with the hose.

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After the epoxy has set cut the nipple of off the old vent valve. Then insert the cut side of the nipple into the hose leaving enough space for the locking clip on the fitting.

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This is the finished product, it is stronger than the oem fitting and sealed back up nicely.

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On a side note I found another shrader valve at the fuel tank to check fuel pressure, I did not know that one was there. :thumbsup:

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So far my truck is running much better and seems to be fixed. A used tank from a local yard was $150, and the valve I got only costs $18.

I hope someone will find this helpful!

:2thumbsup:

Hey BlazingTrails,

Great write up! Has the stalling "gone away" since you made the repair to the vent on the tank? For several years I have fought intermittent stalling while at idle, typically on warm Florida days. Never a code…I have replaced many parts, but to no avail. So when I was reading your repair and mentioned "a lot of green pieces in the bottom of the vent valve" and no more stalling I got to thinking. Could this stalling problem as simple as problems in the vent? So I ask, very politely too, do ya think the stalling had to do with the broken green pieces you found in your vent??? Your thoughts much appreciated.

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HARDTRAILZ

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Not likely to get a response from BlazingTrails. He had a falling out with the site.
 

bspurloc

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Dec 27, 2012
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There is some epoxy out there that will harden with gas leaking. I forget the brand haven't used it in so long, but it used to be sold as 2 strips grey and black. I had a pin hole leak on the bottom on a gas tank once and used it to seal it up as it was still leaking out of it. lol.

Another follow up, Make sure you use an epoxy that is gasoline resistant. It has eroded the epoxy to the point that it has a tiny leak now. No Biggie, and I think the repair is still a good one. Just use the right epoxy.

Maybe something like this?

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Mooseman

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Dec 4, 2011
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Ottawa, ON
This is a very old thread. Pretty much everybody in it has moved on.

All I can suggest is look at JB Weld. I think they came out with some new ones that might work for this. Don't use silicone as it will just dissolve in gas.
 
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Staboogie031

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This is a very old thread. Pretty much everybody in it has moved on.

All I can suggest is look at JB Weld. I think they came out with some new ones that might work for this. Don't use silicone as it will just dissolve in gas.
Ok thanks, I tried to start a new thread but I’m old and lucky I got this message out lol have a great day!
 

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