LED Mod Thread

[PapaBear229]

I have these right now for $26/pair but will even be cheaper once I get them from my factory direct. More like $22/pair.

Any nice discount for a dual order of the ck switchbacks and tails? haha just kidding may have to order these from you aswell

 

[Midnyteryder196]

I have them...just got some (10) in on Monday from a Calif vendor to try out and now I'm having my factory make a bunch for me. These will be good IMO.
Ebay link: 2X 15W 3157 3156 Samsung 2323 High Power LED SMD New Design White Non Polarity | eBay

The ones in the link are actually the same ones that i bought for my reverse lights.... if your factory can make em just like these i will possibly be interested in buy a couple kev.. they are pretty bright n look really good in the reverse lights..

 

[DFWWIZ]

The ones in the link are actually the same ones that i bought for my reverse lights.... if your factory can make em just like these i will possibly be interested in buy a couple kev.. they are pretty bright n look really good in the reverse lights..

But these are SRCK polarity...the reverse bulb is regular 3156

 

[Midnyteryder196]

The ones u having your factory make are srck? The add says they will work in any socket, srck, non srck..

 

[DFWWIZ]

The ones u having your factory make are srck? The add says they will work in any socket, srck, non srck..

No they will NOT. SRCK is polarity with both positive on one side opposite of both negatives. Regular non SRCK has one of each per side. you mix them up and you WILL pop fuses
3157 SRCK is for tail lights
regular 3156 or 3157 is for reverse

AND the 2002 has SRCK for its front 3157 signals...that is the only year they did that

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Well im lost lol... because they are the same ones i bought and they work in my reverse lights.. maybe they are not srck since they work in reverse then??

The ones i bought:

2X 15W 3157 SRCK CK Samsung 2323 High Power LED SMD New Design Super White | eBay

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[DFWWIZ]

Well im lost lol... because they are the same ones i bought and they work in my reverse lights.. maybe they are not srck since they work in reverse then??

The ones i bought:

2X 15W 3157 SRCK CK Samsung 2323 High Power LED SMD New Design Super White | eBay

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They make the same looking bulb in regular 3157 also. They would look identical, only the wires are in different spots. If it was to be held in your hand while you looked at the end it would be 4 locations. for an SRCK bulb it would be as if you rotated the wires locations by 90 degrees.
If you were to remove those reverse lights and put in the tails, it would pop your fuse

http://www.ebay.com/itm/15w-3157-31...Parts_Accessories&hash=item19e82f03ff&vxp=mtr

 

[Midnyteryder196]

They make the same looking bulb in regular 3157 also. They would look identical, only the wires are in different spots. If it was to be held in your hand while you looked at the end it would be 4 locations. for an SRCK bulb it would be as if you rotated the wires locations by 90 degrees.
If you were to remove those reverse lights and put in the tails, it would pop your fuse

Hmm.. well glad I haven't tried em in my tails then lol.. will keep that info handy, thanks kevin!

 

[NinjuhhNutz]

Hmm.. well glad I haven't tried em in my tails then lol.. will keep that info handy, thanks kevin!

will pop a fuse indeed...
I was losing my mind trying to figure out what it was popping my fuses, until I read up on it here.

 

[Blckshdw]

Well im lost lol... because they are the same ones i bought and they work in my reverse lights.. maybe they are not srck since they work in reverse then??

The ones i bought:

[EBAY]281257954757[/EBAY]

The reason those 3157 SRCK bulbs work in your reverse sockets is because the reverse sockets are 3156 and have only 1 set of contacts, and the bulbs you bought have internal circuitry so that they are non polarized. So as long as the input signal, and ground are diagonal from each other in that particular configuration (11 o'clock and 5 o'clock), then you will get the 'high' output from the bulb. If these were switchback bulbs, instead of just white, you would have yellow reverse lights

As far as I know, there is no alternate version of 3156 socket with the contacts at 7 o'clock and 1 o'clock, but if there were, and you had them on your truck, the bulbs would be less bright, as that would give you the 'low' output for the parking light function. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

The reason those 3157 SRCK bulbs work in your reverse sockets is because the reverse sockets are 3156 and have only 1 set of contacts, and the bulbs you bought have internal circuitry so that they are non polarized. So as long as the input signal, and ground are diagonal from each other in that particular configuration (11 o'clock and 5 o'clock), then you will get the 'high' output from the bulb. If these were switchback bulbs, instead of just white, you would have yellow reverse lights

As far as I know, there is no alternate version of 3156 socket with the contacts at 7 o'clock and 1 o'clock, but if there were, and you had them on your truck, the bulbs would be less bright, as that would give you the 'low' output for the parking light function. Hope that makes sense.

Gotcha.. that does help, thanks Carlton! So being that these are SRCK, and non polarized I'm able to use them in any socket on the truck then, correct?

I did kind of understand the SRCK / nonsrck but was just confused as to why these worked when kevin was pointing out that the reverse sockets were regular.
I guess I had thought since the tails/brake/turn were SRCK that the reverse was too, that was why I bought those lights.

 

[Blckshdw]

Gotcha.. that does help, thanks Carlton! So being that these are SRCK, and non polarized I'm able to use them in any socket on the truck then, correct?

I did kind of understand the SRCK / nonsrck but was just confused as to why these worked when kevin was pointing out that the reverse sockets were regular.
I guess I had thought since the tails/brake/turn were SRCK that the reverse was too, that was why I bought those lights.

The parking/brake socket (dual function) is SRCK, the turn signal socket, I don't know if it's SRCK or not, since there's only 1 function just like the reverse light, and the 'high' pin configurations are the same. My stock tails are in a box somewhere in the attic, so confirming with a meter wouldn't be a quick job for me.

The claims in the add would mean that yes you can use that bulb in SRCK as well as standard configurations. I would want to do some bench testing myself, just out of curiosity and knowing that you can't always believe what you read in Ebay adds.

 

[gpking]

The parking/brake socket (dual function) is SRCK, the turn signal socket, I don't know if it's SRCK or not, since there's only 1 function just like the reverse light, and the 'high' pin configurations are the same. My stock tails are in a box somewhere in the attic, so confirming with a meter wouldn't be a quick job for me.

The claims in the add would mean that yes you can use that bulb in SRCK as well as standard configurations. I would want to do some bench testing myself, just out of curiosity and knowing that you can't always believe what you read in Ebay adds.

Tails/brake are SRCK, turns and reverse are regular.

@Midnyteryder02- I read somewhere about non-polarized led bulbs which work in either socket, but I'm unsure if this is true or not. From the info I read the bulb had some sort of circuitry that allowed it to be used in SRCK or regular.
I put regular LEDs in SRCK sockets and it blew fuses, so I'd be careful trying out a non-ploarized bulb from an unknown source.

 

[DFWWIZ]

The reason those 3157 SRCK bulbs work in your reverse sockets is because the reverse sockets are 3156 and have only 1 set of contacts, and the bulbs you bought have internal circuitry so that they are non polarized. So as long as the input signal, and ground are diagonal from each other in that particular configuration (11 o'clock and 5 o'clock), then you will get the 'high' output from the bulb. If these were switchback bulbs, instead of just white, you would have yellow reverse lights

As far as I know, there is no alternate version of 3156 socket with the contacts at 7 o'clock and 1 o'clock, but if there were, and you had them on your truck, the bulbs would be less bright, as that would give you the 'low' output for the parking light function. Hope that makes sense.

Thanks for posting that up Carlton! I was hoping you would chime in on this.

 

[DFWWIZ]

Here is a pic with me mocking up the look of the above SRCK 3157 bulb. I have the after market installed LED taillight assemblies from Ebay on mine so I used my stock housing holding the bulb to show what it looks like. (not easy to hold camera, light bulb, and tail light all at same time)

 

[mcsteven]

The reason those 3157 SRCK bulbs work in your reverse sockets is because the reverse sockets are 3156 and have only 1 set of contacts, and the bulbs you bought have internal circuitry so that they are non polarized. So as long as the input signal, and ground are diagonal from each other in that particular configuration (11 o'clock and 5 o'clock), then you will get the 'high' output from the bulb. If these were switchback bulbs, instead of just white, you would have yellow reverse lights

As far as I know, there is no alternate version of 3156 socket with the contacts at 7 o'clock and 1 o'clock, but if there were, and you had them on your truck, the bulbs would be less bright, as that would give you the 'low' output for the parking light function. Hope that makes sense.

Not sure why it didn't post what I had said. So...

Thanks for posting this. I don't know if my 06 Envoy has any SRCK but at least I know the difference now. Learning lots here at the Nation.

 

[djthumper]

I don't know if my 06 Envoy has any SRCK but at least I know the difference now. Learning lots here at the Nation.

Pretty sure the entire GMT 360/370 line has SRCK for the brakes.

 

[gpking]

Pretty sure the entire GMT 360/370 line has SRCK for the brakes.

This is definitely true of the pre-'05 models.

The only sockets that change on our platform are the front turn signals. On the '02-'04 they are SRCK, '05+ they are regular.
This is true of the TB and I am guessing this will also be true of all other models on our platform.
Always test your sockets to confirm what type they are.

 

[djthumper]

This is definitely true of the pre-'05 models.

'05+ they are regular.
This is true of the TB and I am guessing this will also be true of all other models on our platform.

What data do you have to show that they are regular on a 05+? They all use the same control board.

This is true for all GMT 360/370 as I already stated.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

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What data do you have to show that they are regular on a 05+? They all use the same control board.

This is true for all GMT 360/370 as I already stated.

I think he was talking about the fronts are regular on 05+..

But I thought it was only 02 that were SRCK on front..

 

[djthumper]

He quoted my comment of the SRCK Brakes. So he is either misquoting me or I would like to see the data he has to prove what he stated.

As far as the front we have only been able to confirm that it was the '02 that had SRCKs in the front.

 

[fr34kout]

My 08 definitely has SRCK brake lights, I blew a handful of fuses trying regular LED bulbs before giving up and trying to figure out what the problem was.

 

[djthumper]

My 08 definitely has SRCK brake lights, I blew a handful of fuses trying regular LED bulbs before giving up and trying to figure out what the problem was.

Well that reconfirms the Envoys for me along with the others and the 05+.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Okay guys ive been enlisted to help Aarkon to do the leds in his tb.. I need just lil bit of help with his back window switches though..

where is the light on the '08 rear switches??? My '03 had a socket right in the middle.. but yeah his doesnt.. lol

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[Boricua SS]

It's the same thing on all the SS'. We dont have sockets either. You see the 7 solder points labeled ABCDEFG? Those are your points to pull power and ground from. I believe ABCD are all power and EFG are all negative. Just pick two and go from there. The only downfall is the switch will always be illuminated not just when you turn on the lights (but will turn off when you turn the vehicle off) To turn them off while the truck is on, just hit your window lock switch/button on the drivers door and they will shut off.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

It's the same thing on all the SS'. We dont have sockets either. You see the 7 solder points labeled ABCDEFG? Those are your points to pull power and ground from. I believe ABCD are all power and EFG are all negative. Just pick two and go from there. The only downfall is the switch will always be illuminated not just when you turn on the lights (but will turn off whwn you turn the vehicle off) To turn them off whike the truck is on, just hit your wondow lock switch on the drivers door and they will shut off.

hmmm.. thats odd that they would go to a style like that... so if i wired them up like you said, would they be on even with truck off?? or just with ignition on?

 

[Boricua SS]

They turn off with the truck off and they come on with the truck on. To turn them off while the truck is on, just hit the window lock button (like you would if you didnt want someone else to roll their wondow down) and they will turn off.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

They turn off with the truck off and they come on with the truck on. To turn them off while the truck is on, just hit the window lock button (like you would if you didnt want someone else to roll their wondow down) and they will turn off.

gotcha.. thanks boricua!

 

[Boricua SS]

No problem bro. All trial and error. When I saw that on mine, I called Carlton right away lol. I was like "dude, there isn't a socket!" Lol. So through our brainstorming, I just touched the legs of the led first to see if it would light up and it did. So I soldered them up and figured out on my own that they stayed on constantly, then turned off when the truck was off. then one day by accident when I hit the window lock button, I noticed they were off. It doesnt bother me at all since I dont look at the back anyway lol.

I just dont remember which is positive and which is negative. But I know that once you find it, that whole row is positive and the other whole row is negative.

 

[Midnyteryder196]

No problem bro. All trial and error. When I saw that on mine, I called Carlton right away lol. I was like "dude, there isn't a socket!" Lol. So through our brainstorming, I just touched the legs of the led first to see if it would light up and it did. So I soldered them up and figured out on my own that they stayed on constantly then one day by accident when I hit the wonfow lock button, I noticed they were off. It doesnt bother me at all since I dont look at the back anyway lol.

lol ryan said hes good with that.. so we will have it done by the meet for sure lol

 

[Boricua SS]

Im gettin more and more ansy about tackling my cluster . It's agitating more and more that it's the only thing I dont have done after 2 years of having everything else done. I just have a fear of the leg through soldering joints. I messed up my rear hvac pretty good because it had that style on it too. So im still iffy on the cluster and getting the factory bulbs out.

 

[DDonnie]

Im gettin more and more ansy about tackling my cluster . It's agitating more and more that it's the only thing I dont have done after 2 years of having everything else done. I just have a fear of the leg through soldering joints. I messed up my rear hvac pretty good because it had that style on it too. So im still iffy on the cluster and getting the factory bulbs out.

It's really not that bad. If you are too nervous about it, buy the led strips and wrap the inside of the cluster with it. That way, you only have one solder point and no hot spots (indirect light). I did that with mine because the red LED's i had were too dull for the cluster.


Amazon.com: SUPERNIGHT (TM) 16.4ft 5M SMD 5050 Blue Waterproof Led Flexible Flash Strip 300 Leds LED Light Strip 60Leds/M Multifunctional: Home Improvement

 

[Midnyteryder196]

Im gettin more and more ansy about tackling my cluster . It's agitating more and more that it's the only thing I dont have done after 2 years of having everything else done. I just have a fear of the leg through soldering joints. I messed up my rear hvac pretty good because it had that style on it too. So im still iffy on the cluster and getting the factory bulbs out.

i actually thought the cluster was the easiest one to do haha. Depending on what color you going with, i would put 2 bulbs in each spot and bend them oposite of each other for more even light dispersion.. also, if u hadnt seen it before i would recommend removing the blue off the numbers.. makes the light shine brighter and truer color..

Figured would throw a pic of my gauges since its the last dash led mod

First had to remove the blue on the numbers:

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Finished product before lens install:

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[Boricua SS]

That strip worked for you Donnie? Where did you solder it to and how did you mount it and close everything back up?

I'll be keeping things Blue Midnyte. Here's my interior now...

 

[Midnyteryder196]

That strip worked for you Donnie? Where did you solder it to and how did you mount it and close everything back up?

I'll be keeping things Blue Midnyte. Here's my interior now...

very nice!! how did you do your vents??




heres mine before steppers and getting more even light in cluster:
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and cluster after steppers, and getting the leds bent to disperse light more evenly:
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[PapaBear229]

I practically ruined my front HVAC lol, the cluster has been the easiest thus far to me honestly and that was the first thing I ever out LEDs in

 

[Boricua SS]

Thx! I started a crave last time when I posted my vents lol. Basically I just used litte 4" strips with 6 leds on them (3m adhesive tape on the back)

 

[DDonnie]

Thx! I started a crave last time when I posted my vents lol. Basically I just used litte 4" strips with 6 leds on them (3m adhesive tape on the back)

Quoted the wrong post. I'm taking my dash back apart in the next few weeks, i'll take pics of the inside.

 

[PapaBear229]

I gotta stop being so lazy with my LEDs.. I just took the bulbs out of the rear HVAC and didn't touch the 4wd switch. Gotta get on it so my truck can look as good as y'all's! And I gotta get a new headlight switch and front HVAC and not mess them up this time around haha

 

[DDonnie]

So I had some time to play with the LEDs I have. So lets start with what I had. I don't have the specs for them because these are the ones I took from a Silverado mirror turn signal.
In the light.
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And in the dark.
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So I added some smd strips. I removed the face from the holder to make access easier.
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I got an big improvment.
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But not quite what I want so I added more smd strips.
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So I finally got a finished product I can live with
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BTW I ditched my camera phone and used a camera with manual settings. That way you can compair the photos because I used the same settings for all the pictures

That strip worked for you Donnie? Where did you solder it to and how did you mount it and close everything back up?

I'll be keeping things Blue Midnyte. Here's my interior now...

See above!