Best Replacement Battery Type

The_Roadie

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Say, that looks suspiciously like a rebadged version of the one *I* use. And paid over $200 for. :biggrin:
 

Wooluf1952

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Sparky said:
What do you mean a wet cell that's not vented? All wet cells have breathers of some sort.

The wet cell battery must be vented out side of the cabin of the truck. Not just vented out of the battery.
 

IllogicTC

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smt 59 said:
Who pays $200 for a battery, my cool green interstate was $90 CDN. Installed. Are batteries in the US different? Lol

People who want AGM/Gel. Always see them advertised as "maintenance-free," meaning you never have to add water and all that, and a lot more suitable for offroad applications.
 

BoldAdventure

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smt 59 said:
Who pays $200 for a battery, my cool green interstate was $90 CDN. Installed. Are batteries in the US different? Lol

No, shitty interstate batteries are about the same state side. :thumbsup: Should of went to K-Mart.
 

kickass audio

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damn trolls. And to think I fed one. :hissyfit: hahahaa. You win. +1 internets for you Mike. Yeah thats a typo about the vents. Only AGM's are sealed and only vent if you overcharge them which if that happens your battery is toast if its AGM. I have seen plenty of morons out there who swear wet cells are just fine in the car. How they don't spark a fire or kill themselves from the gas is unknown to me.
 

BoldAdventure

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kickass audio said:
damn trolls. And to think I fed one. :hissyfit: hahahaa. You win. +1 internets for you Mike. Yeah thats a typo about the vents. Only AGM's are sealed and only vent if you overcharge them which if that happens your battery is toast if its AGM. I have seen plenty of morons out there who swear wet cells are just fine in the car. How they don't spark a fire or kill themselves from the gas is unknown to me.

Sorry broski, but if you had read the thread before posting your opinion piece you would of known that I run an AGM and was already arguing with these yo-yo's in the thread about their crappy walmart batteries not being the best.

See folks, read the whole thread before you open your mouth. :raspberry:
 

IllogicTC

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kickass audio said:
How they don't spark a fire or kill themselves from the gas is unknown to me.

Dunno, but this one time as a kid I saw someone install a battery backwards in a 1988 Ford Taurus. THE SPARKS, MAN! THE SPARKS!
 

kickass audio

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nothing like the 4th of July under the hood. Fuses and relays and anything else blowing up. Nice show for the whole fam. lol.
 

Bartonmd

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kickass audio said:
damn trolls. And to think I fed one. :hissyfit: hahahaa. You win. +1 internets for you Mike. Yeah thats a typo about the vents. Only AGM's are sealed and only vent if you overcharge them which if that happens your battery is toast if its AGM. I have seen plenty of morons out there who swear wet cells are just fine in the car. How they don't spark a fire or kill themselves from the gas is unknown to me.

Just for the record, wet cells really are "just fine." Not anywhere near as good as AGMs, especially in anything considered a "heavy duty" application (winching, vibration, offroad, big audio, etc.), but they are perfectly acceptable in a regular car or SUV that only sees road duty with a stock-ish stereo. I've got Diehard Platinums in both the TB and my K2500HD, and I'll probably put one in the wife's Cruze, but in my '93 LeSabre beater... It's got a Duralast Gold in it...

Mike
 

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Don't vented wet cells emit hydrogen? Maintenance free wet cells might not unless they're overcharged and open up the burst vent. (I assume they all have burst vents).

That said, hydrogen itn't going to show up in a concentration that's going to make an explosive mixture around the headliner level, unless there's links I' missed with examples of car fires traced to hydrogen as a root cause.
 

Envoy_04

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the roadie said:
Don't vented wet cells emit hydrogen? Maintenance free wet cells might not unless they're overcharged and open up the burst vent. (I assume they all have burst vents).

That said, hydrogen itn't going to show up in a concentration that's going to make an explosive mixture around the headliner level, unless there's links I' missed with examples of car fires traced to hydrogen as a root cause.

Vented wet cells do indeed emit hydrogen. Maintenance free ones such as cars have nowdays do, but not like ones such as deep cycle wet cell batteries you have to check the water level in.

On deep cycle batteries there IS enough hydrogen vented to cause an explosion, I have seen it firsthand and the damage is quite unreal. This is particularly the case in golf carts and other things that use packs of deep cycle batteries (electric forklifts, industrial floor buffers and sweepers, etc....). The pic below is a 36 volt system (6 6 volt batteries) that had ONE bad connection, possibly an internal short, in the batteries, which caused a spark that set off the hydrogen. The reason that they all blew up is that there was an autofill watering system connecting all the batteries. The force was enough to lift the seat up and knock the driver off the cart. This particular pic isn't mine, I borrowed it from a golf cart forum I'm on. Notice the fill caps are almost all blown off (they lock on by the way), and the sealed tops of the batteries are all blown apart.

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The_Roadie

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I can totally understand the physics behind that sort of explosion, especially as connected by the tubing. Thanks for the details.

I think this sort of danger has mutated to "hydrogen gas will vent from your battery inside the cabin, rise to the headliner area, then a dome light spark is going to trigger the explosion". This is what I don't see as possible. I think the risk of acid splattering the passenger compartment in case of a single battery explosion is mitigated by a vented battery box like I use: (besides I use a deep cycle AGM in the vehicle for my fridge and LED lights)

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Ghost

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Haha I remember when my brother was running a excavator and a battery blew up got acid all over him and his shirt by next day was practically eaten away. He wore two long sleeves so it didn't huet him bit it was funny as ****.
 

Sparky

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Envoy_04 said:
Vented wet cells do indeed emit hydrogen. Maintenance free ones such as cars have nowdays do, but not like ones such as deep cycle wet cell batteries you have to check the water level in.

On deep cycle batteries there IS enough hydrogen vented to cause an explosion, I have seen it firsthand and the damage is quite unreal. This is particularly the case in golf carts and other things that use packs of deep cycle batteries (electric forklifts, industrial floor buffers and sweepers, etc....). The pic below is a 36 volt system (6 6 volt batteries) that had ONE bad connection, possibly an internal short, in the batteries, which caused a spark that set off the hydrogen. The reason that they all blew up is that there was an autofill watering system connecting all the batteries. The force was enough to lift the seat up and knock the driver off the cart. This particular pic isn't mine, I borrowed it from a golf cart forum I'm on. Notice the fill caps are almost all blown off (they lock on by the way), and the sealed tops of the batteries are all blown apart.

Ejection seat!
 

BoldAdventure

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The best battery is a used one you can get them for like $30 at a pick in pull. Pour in water and you're all set. Spend the cash on something else.
 

HARDTRAILZ

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get the 20 dollar ones with the slight cracks...don't hurt nothin anyway
 

Ghost

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You think these nuclear powered batteries will work on your truck OP ? There from mother Russia:biggrin:
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Aries

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This thread is worthless without the Ukrainian Army..
 

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Chickenhawk

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My drill sergeant would have a field day. Those three on the right in the second row are distinctly out of uniform.

There are STANDARDS here, folks!
 

IllogicTC

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Chickenhawk said:
My drill sergeant would have a field day. Those three on the right in the second row are distinctly out of uniform.

There are STANDARDS here, folks!

Better than a field day on a submarine - you get to clean literally EVERYTHING, as I understand it. Doesn't sound too fun.
 

Ghost

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Aries said:
This thread is worthless without the Ukrainian Army..

The man in green with the camera is a pervert
 

Ghost

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C-ya

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Chickenhawk said:
My drill sergeant would have a field day. Those three on the right in the second row are distinctly out of uniform.

There are STANDARDS here, folks!

I see at least 7 different shoe styles, about 4 different skirt types and hats worn at all angles.

But it was fun looking!
 

C-ya

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IllogicTC said:
Better than a field day on a submarine - you get to clean literally EVERYTHING, as I understand it. Doesn't sound too fun.


On surface ships and shore stations, too.

Yes, you get to clean everything.
 

Chickenhawk

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C-ya said:
I see at least 7 different shoe styles, about 4 different skirt types and hats worn at all angles.

But it was fun looking!
They're wearing hats?



Hey ... yeah, you're right.
 

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