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Battery recommendations

Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by coolasice, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. coolasice

    coolasice Well-Known Member

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    Looks like my original acdelco battery is losing its umph and I get my clock resetting on start in the morning now... Any recommendations for a good cold weather battery?
     
  2. Sparky

    Sparky Moderator

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    I've never had any issues with the Gold series batteries from Autozone or Advance Auto. I don't care for the Silver line though.
     
  3. Ilikemy3s

    Ilikemy3s Well-Known Member

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    In ever vehicle I have had and do have including the 04 Envoy and current 05 TB I have always used and never had an issue with DieHard gold series.
     
  4. coolasice

    coolasice Well-Known Member

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    I'll have to check out the pricing,. What's the warranty on em?

    No longer a die-hard dealer nearby...

    Thoughts on the Walmart Maxx line?
     
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    CHeck at Sam's Club
     
  6. Reprise

    Reprise Silver Supporter

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    Ah... I get back in town and find a post I can add relevant (?) info to :smile:

    First off - To get 9 yrs out of the original battery (I see you have an '08 and are assumedly the original owner, as well) - that is pretty darned good. While on the one hand, I'd suggest 'dancing with the one who brung you there'... OEM batteries & same-vendor replacements are often two different things. I'm not picking on ACDelco specifically when I say this.

    You mentioned the Walmart Maxx line - I have one. It's actually my 2nd one; the first one lasted about a year (partially my fault). I had put the Voy into the garage to install my TransGo kit - and accidentally let the battery discharge over the course of a couple of months (don't ask). That was essentially the only discharge event the battery experienced - but it would not charge afterward. Took it to WallyWorld, and they put their tester on it - showed the battery was bad, and I got to select my new one (which, as I did previously - selected something recently delivered, rather than something sitting there awhile.) Warranty started over again with the new one.

    As an aside - they did not like my photographed copy of the receipt, and 'warned' me to bring in 'only the original' next time (paraphrasing, but the phrase 'next time' doesn't exactly instill confidence, eh?) Never mind what that thermally printed receipt would look like in 3 years (probably like blank paper), but, hey - it will be the original.

    They also have a policy of 'no receipt equals 3yrs from the mfg date on the battery sticker' - another reason to get as 'fresh' as possible. IIRC, they get batteries on the same day of week / day of month (forget which it is) so knowing when they come in can be helpful, I suppose. And if you pay with a credit card that offers it, you can get another year of protection out of that (through the bank issuing the card - I use AMEX for this.)

    The new one is doing OK a year later, but the last time I had the truck down a couple of weeks ago, I disconnected the negative post, and then put the charger on it when I was ready to reconnect - it listed at about 70% - when it got to 92% in a couple of hours, I disconnected the charger (I had put in a new alternator, 'just because I was in there', and knew not to tax it with a discharged battery.) So... the battery was at about 70% charge, as a baseline, having been in the truck for a year.

    Pluses for WalMart:
    - One in nearly every town, making replacement easier (premature or otherwise).
    - Definitely a cheaper option, for an older vehicle.
    - Maxx carries a 3yr full-replacement warranty (IIRC). If you can play your cards right, it'll be the last battery you ever buy :wink: LOL

    Incidentally, I heard on the car radio just yesterday that Sears was now going to let 'other' companies manufacture the DieHard and Kenmore brands, and also allow other companies besides Sears to sell them. Not sure what the manufacturing changes entail - Johnson Controls makes the DieHard batteries (was Exide), and it's easy to tell who makes the various Kenmore products - just look at the other companies' offerings in the same store (KitchenAid, Samsung, Whirlpool, etc.) But I digress.

    BTW - Johnson Controls also makes the Maxx line for Walmart (if not all Walmart branded lines,) IIRC. The DieHard lines *may* be built to a higher standard; not sure on that. Probably not difficult, knowing Walmart's cost controls. The news that Sears has sold mfg and licensing rights probably mean that the DieHard brand / line will continue after Sears has gone - probably with the same premium / markup that Sears puts on them currently (one which I might consider with a daily driver, but not for the Voy, as I don't drive it a lot, currently. You may agree with my logic, or not - I usually have at least two vehicles to choose from, so having an issue with one doesn't limit my mobility)

    My other recommendations?
    - I see a lot of Interstates installed in vehicles - don't know how well they do from personal experience. Last I saw, Exide was making them, but they may be JC now, as well.

    - If you have big power needs (e.g.; car stereo amp(s), etc. - you may want to look for one designed for deep discharges (like the AGM types - 'Red Top', etc.) Although I hear they're not what they used to be, as well.

    Anyway...good luck, and let us know what you decide on!
     
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  7. coolasice

    coolasice Well-Known Member

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    Probably will go with the Walmart brand,. They have a similar warranty to the acdelco. No major power needs,. Truck is almost stock except for the trailer controller and remote start.
     
  8. shovenose

    shovenose Well-Known Member

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    Interstate, (n)EverStart, Duralast, Optima, SuperStart*, DieHard, Motorcraft... it's ALL Johnson Controls...

    If you're willing to buy a JC battery, the best deal is Costco's Interstate batteries and their customer service is the best... no question refunds basically. Just not that many locations and they don't have late hours if you need to get a warranty replacement at an odd time.

    O'Reilly is a great place to buy a battery (SuperStart branded) because there are many locations and they're open early in the morning and pretty late at night. Unfortunately, retail price isn't great. If you're getting a regular battery just price-match Walmart, problem solved. For an AGM battery, eh, the price is worth it, but, if possible, just find somebody with a business/shop account because the discount is pretty significant (heck, for purchases for friends and other peoples vehicles [can't use employee account for anything but ones own vehicles] I got a business account for my web design company)...

    *I'll tell you this though... NOT all SuperStart batteries are made by JC. How can you tell? If it has a J in the part number it is, if it doesn't, it's not. This is regional, but around here, in group size 78, the two-year warranty (SS Premium 78PRMJ) is JC while both the three-year options (SS Extreme 78EXT and SS Platnium 78PLT) are not made by JC. So, do yourself a favor and buy one that isn't made by JC. If you can afford it get an AGM battery... just not Optima, they're JC trash now too. Only thing to pay attention is the manufacture date sticker, these batteries don't sell that quickly, so try to get the newest one. Official policy is "first in first out" but ask nicely for the newest one :wink:

    Currently running SuperStart Premiums in both my vehicles (one I needed right away but didn't have any money left, and the other was put in by the seller the morning before I got my vehicle), but my next batteries are going to be SuperStart Platinums - AGM is just a much better technology.
     
  9. Tiggerr

    Tiggerr Gold Supporter

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    NAPA (made by Deka in PA).....Or Interstate battery... only thing I've ever had luck with...Optima also if your feeling rich
     
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  10. snoozer

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    I have used NAPA batteries for many years. My last battery I bought was a 6 year battery & it was still working good at year 11 when I sold my 89 Suburban.
    I won't use anything but their batteries.
     
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  11. coolasice

    coolasice Well-Known Member

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    Well... not sure it's the battery now, I think it might be the ignition switch... tried it the other day and first turn of the key acted like a dead battery, resetting the clock and causing some relays to chatter. turn key off, and tried to start again and it fired up like it was nothing...
     
  12. therealsethallen

    therealsethallen Well-Known Member

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    I bought the Volvo with an Exide, which came from a local Tractor Supply. It's a couple years old and seems fine.
    When I bought the 9-7x in 2015, it had a Saab-brand battery, which is apperently an ACDelco, made by Johnson Controls. JC makes batteries for just about everyone. Finally crapped out early this winter, and was replaced with an Interstate Mega Tron II 78-Series, which I get at cost for being having a friend that's an Interstate dealer, however I don't recommend them as much as I used to as they carry a terrible warranty.

    Optima is a JC battery, and it's what I recommend to diesel guys.
    But I've had decent luck with Walmart Valu-Power batteries in my lot cars. Easiest thing to do with them, run out to Wallyworld and pay $50 for a battery. I keep the slip warranty them for a year. Everyday commuters and lease cars we don't care about, it's perfect. Walmart's other batteries really aren't even that bad. Same for SuperStart's and Advance's line, the name slips my mind.
     
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    I've never seen that. They must be getting rare now. Should have peeled and kept the label.
     
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  14. therealsethallen

    therealsethallen Well-Known Member

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    It's in my garage.
     
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  15. Reprise

    Reprise Silver Supporter

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    Slight risk of necroposting here, but wanted to pass on...

    Was at Costco today, and found the Interstate Group 78s for 83.99 (plus $15 refundable core deposit). 42mo 'full' warranty (no pro-rata, even in month 41, per the clerk). Cash & carry - you can pick out the battery from the rack, install yourself, and bring the old battery back at a later date.
    The ones at the front of the rack were a mix of June, August & September.

    A couple of weeks ago, my current (2nd) WalMart Maxx sulfated due to sitting idle. The first one did this as well last year; it had to be replaced. Was able to recover this one - but if it goes again, I may just take it to Costco and use it as a core on an Interstate. The one downside is that any warranty issues have to be dealt with through Costco (printed on the case label)

    So...forewarning...the Group 78 EverStart Maxx cannot be left sitting idle for a long period of time; if you drive the truck infrequently, a float charger is pretty much de rigueur. When I put the charger on it before starting the truck a couple of weeks ago, the charger reported 15% SOC - and I was surprised that I was able to recover it (supposedly, anything under 60% SOC for a 'flooded' (conventional) battery is bad news).

    As someone else posted online...."When it works, it's a great battery - until it doesn't."

    Supposedly, AGM batteries are supposed to be ideal for vehicles that sit for long periods - but I'm not paying $200+ for a battery, unless it's my daily driver and I have no other transportation - and if it's a DD, then I don't have the issue of sitting idle, either, so no need for an AGM.

    One other thing I discovered while researching 'best group 78' - Consumer Reports (for what that's worth) rated one of the DieHards the best for group 78 (they listed different brands as 'best' within different groups.).

    Given that Sears Holdings announced closing of yet another bunch of stores the other day, I don't think I'm going to be visiting them anytime soon (and IIRC, they require installation - at extra cost - in order to obtain the warranty on the unit). And I believe Sears Canada is already set for liquidation, so no help for our friends in Canuckistan :frown:

    Anyway...hope the above is helpful for anyone battery shopping in Fall / Winter 2017...
     
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  16. coolasice

    coolasice Well-Known Member

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    Ended up going with the Walmart maxx battery, but I think it was the terminal bolt that was the issue, very corroded. Bought a new battery and new bolts and back in business. 9yrs is pretty darn good. Most I ever got out of a battery was 5years. My old 1985 Nissan 4x4 used to go through Napa battery's every 6 months... Loved the warranty, free replacements all the time.
     
  17. Reprise

    Reprise Silver Supporter

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    Just don't let it sit idle forever, and it should give you good service. And 9yrs out of a battery *is* pretty darned good, especially if it's the OEM.

    Mine's been starting up w/ no issues since I charged it earlier in this thread. Thought for sure it was going to become a doorstop, like my first one. Does seem like it cranks a little differently now, but it's holding charge well. We'll see what the colder weather brings.
     

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