02 TB LS multiple repairs
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So on your door handle.. Is the issue with the interior grab handle where it feels like you are pulling the door card off, the actual door open pull handle, or the exterior pull handle?
If its the interior door close pull feeling like the door card is about to fall off.. I cant find the specific kit for the Trailblazer. I can find them for the Envoy/9-7x/Ascender.. I am not sure if they are the same kits..
If its the interior door close pull feeling like the door card is about to fall off.. I cant find the specific kit for the Trailblazer. I can find them for the Envoy/9-7x/Ascender.. I am not sure if they are the same kits..
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Thanks, @TollKeeper. Can a moderator move this handle stuff to a new thread? I will start a thread there for something to do with interior.
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I am a newbie and we got off track at my Introduction post and was talking about the broken interior door handle on my girl's 2002 Trailblazer. Hopefully a moderator can move those posts to here. @TollKeeper has been helping about this as well. So has @Mooseman. I now have a video link from @TollKeeper about the steps to repair but need a known good kit part number for repair kits I hear about or will be going to salvage yard. Thanks
So after doing a bit of research, the trailblazer does not have a repair kit, and I see why.
The door pull on the TrailBlazer is separate from the door panel, whereas the Rainier/9-7x/Envoy its integrated into the panel.
So looks like replacement is the only option.. Hopefully one of the other guys more familiar with the TB interior will respond.
Pics for reference..
Envoy
TB
Looks like the door pull handles are available thru eBay, and salvage yards. Just a matter of matching the color.
The door pull on the TrailBlazer is separate from the door panel, whereas the Rainier/9-7x/Envoy its integrated into the panel.
So looks like replacement is the only option.. Hopefully one of the other guys more familiar with the TB interior will respond.
Pics for reference..
Envoy
TB
Looks like the door pull handles are available thru eBay, and salvage yards. Just a matter of matching the color.
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Mooseman
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Moved those posts to this one but @TollKeeper 's post was first so he will appear as the OP. I can't change the date/time of posts.
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So, I found this on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1444749847...=0&customid=link&campid=&toolid=20001&mkevt=1
It has a left front that I need and a right front. A pair. I did send a message to the seller to see if could ship for free to two different addresses. Is anyone interested?
It has a left front that I need and a right front. A pair. I did send a message to the seller to see if could ship for free to two different addresses. Is anyone interested?
Besides the guy doing the video being pretty clumsy, that is good to know. I am seeing a salavge yard trip in my future. The best I found at ebay was a matching front set that I talk about in the above post.
@TollKeeper, as it turns out, the guy who has the handle I need, as per the video you sent me, is also the guy who had the matching driver's and passenger's panels. I contacted him and let him know I will be ordering the handle asap. Thanks for the video.
Mooseman
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That... is.... expensive! I could go to my pick-n-pull and probably find just the handle for $10 and the whole door panel for $19. I should go as mine is also broken but it's cold now.
@Mooseman, at 70 years old, as of tomorrow, I want to stay away from the salvage yard as much as possible. I don't want to drive there, take a chance the part I need may or may not be there and then have to drive to another one and so on and so on and so on.....Free shipping and no fuel burned and not on roads where there are idiots around here....I am good.
Besides....I am a thousandaire....so there's that..
Besides....I am a thousandaire....so there's that..
So, few things went on today. After getting the new/used driver's door arm rest and the new driver's door limiting strap/door check, I decided to replace both. Yesterday we had went to a locksmith I like to use and they had ordered in two new key fobs. We had none to begin with and had 3 keys only that we could unlock the front doors with but not turn to lock them. The locksmith freed up the passenger side door tumbler but the driver's door tumbler would not budge to the lock position. They said to bring back today when I had the inner door skin off for my planned work. Did that and they had to remove the tumbler and open it and fix a failed ball bearing in there and now works as should with keys but still the key fobs would not program. They said is likely the very sluggish actuators or a BCM problem. Then I remembered my problems with only the left rear speaker working. If I adjust the fade and balance, you can hear both front speakers that are very very very low, almost silent and a very high pitched tinny sound and the right rear is still silent. Then I remembered the ground problems the Tahoes and Yukons and Suburbans of this vintage and am going to go thru all the grounds. Found out there is supposed to be a big ground spot under the carpet on the front passenger side. Is that correct? That will not likely fix the very sluggish actuators, when turning key, not with a fob. We have no working fobs.
Then the broken inner arm rest is replaced and the limiting strap is replaced. That freakin' strap is no fun getting it back thru the door jam hole where the strap part works. The hinge part at end of strap is a PITA. Had to hold my tongue just right and push/pull on the front guide for the window track. Once was thru the hole, a piece of cake. The next PITA was the rear 10 mm bolt for the arm rest. It is down this 2" hole and if you can't stab it just right, it falls inside the door skin. Ask me how I know this. Got some grease in the socket and was able to stab and tighten. Now all that is good but the damn speakers and key fobs have to be dealt with. Next week is get all the fluids up to snuff week. P/S, brake fluid, diffs, transmission and oil change. Whoopee!
Then the broken inner arm rest is replaced and the limiting strap is replaced. That freakin' strap is no fun getting it back thru the door jam hole where the strap part works. The hinge part at end of strap is a PITA. Had to hold my tongue just right and push/pull on the front guide for the window track. Once was thru the hole, a piece of cake. The next PITA was the rear 10 mm bolt for the arm rest. It is down this 2" hole and if you can't stab it just right, it falls inside the door skin. Ask me how I know this. Got some grease in the socket and was able to stab and tighten. Now all that is good but the damn speakers and key fobs have to be dealt with. Next week is get all the fluids up to snuff week. P/S, brake fluid, diffs, transmission and oil change. Whoopee!
The best part of doing this work on my fiance's rig is that she stays out there with me and goes for tools and holds the light and adds an extra hand when needed and is not afraid to get dirty. I got her some new floor mats for the front and second row and a cargo mat at the back. I wear shop coveralls when I am working, from my diesel shop days, and plan on getting her a pair as well.
Mooseman
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Did it ever have any working fobs? IIRC, if it has key locks on both sides, it doesn't have that option. Check for AU0 on the glove box sticker.
This thread has a lot of info on programming it if you do:
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This thread has a lot of info on programming it if you do:
problem programming key fob
I have a 2006 Trailblazer LS Bought it used and it came with a 'generic' remote fob. The fob functions just fine but the plastic ring that attaches it to my keyring broke so I bought a replacement GM fob from Ebay. The fob came with the standard programming instructions (hold door unlock...
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I know I had pulled a build sheet for his truck, but cant find it now.. damnit!
You can also try to program the FOB from your Tahoe, if you have the AU0 it should also be able to be programmed, just to rule out bad FOB's.
But with it being a 2 lock truck, I am thinking it doesnt have the RDL. Does it even go into programming mode?
Might be time for a aftermarket remote start/lock/unlock!
You can also try to program the FOB from your Tahoe, if you have the AU0 it should also be able to be programmed, just to rule out bad FOB's.
But with it being a 2 lock truck, I am thinking it doesnt have the RDL. Does it even go into programming mode?
Might be time for a aftermarket remote start/lock/unlock!
You did, I looked, no keyless entry option listed for this truck.
If the build sheet @TollKeeper posted is accurate your truck did not have the keyless entry option.
In the case of these vehicles the key fob operations are handled by the LGM, not the BCM.
I wonder if swapping out the LGM for one that does have the keyless entry would work.
Mooseman
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Probably but the BCM would also need to be programmed. Not sure if when setting up the programming, it's an option that's turned on or if it's by the VIN. Would require a Tech 2 and Tis2000 or a trip to the dealer or shop that has that capability.
Mooseman
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I found and stayed up last night reading this thread:
gmtnation.com
While I still am gonna replace the ignition switch based off of pattern failures of that switch, it looks like I don't have to worry about fobs now. I just walked out and double checked and there is no AU0 on the RPO codes. No fobs from the beginning.
All modules failing randomly or different starting point?
Hi. 43 year old woman with a little more knowledge than the average Joe on scanners and codes and basic troubleshooting but I tend to get dismissed or talked in circles at the shop. I'm not trying to lump everyone together or create any stereotype battle here. It simply is what it is with my...
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While I still am gonna replace the ignition switch based off of pattern failures of that switch, it looks like I don't have to worry about fobs now. I just walked out and double checked and there is no AU0 on the RPO codes. No fobs from the beginning.
Found it! I tried the search, but never tried just the word "Build"
Anyways!
With your speakers working, but very faintly... This is going to be one of 2 problems. You will still have to pull the speakers to verify for step one, and try them on your home stereo. If the Voice coil is fried, they will produce a SMALL vibration, but not much, and barely enough to hear. The second, and more likely, is the in head unit amp has failed. Not very common, but it does happen.
I dont have any spare amped head units, all of mine are BOSE. They are available. Usually in Tape deck, or Tape Deck/Single CD. Most would say to upgrade so that you get a more modern radio.. I am one of the Nah-Sayers on this, I prefer stock, and at the end of the day is usually cheaper... Unless you just want a newer style radio with touch screen and all that.
You can always upgrade to the VERY rare Nav system that had the amp in the head unit. I would have to search around and find that part number.. They do exist, but as I said, are EXTREMELY rare. Since they have not updated the map discs for those head units since 2012, I dont recommend it..
If you get the right head unit (post 2004.5) that has a BAND button, instead of a AM/FM button, you can add bluetooth. Thats what I have done with most of my vehicles. And with the radio I just got from @Jexnell , I can even do it on my wives Pontiac (I hope!)
Let me know if you want me to find the part numbers for a Non-Bose headunit, and if you want to have the bluetooth ability.
@Mooseman - Probably wanna rename this thread to @movietvet's 2002 TB Build Thread since we are working on fixing a lot of things?
Anyways!
With your speakers working, but very faintly... This is going to be one of 2 problems. You will still have to pull the speakers to verify for step one, and try them on your home stereo. If the Voice coil is fried, they will produce a SMALL vibration, but not much, and barely enough to hear. The second, and more likely, is the in head unit amp has failed. Not very common, but it does happen.
I dont have any spare amped head units, all of mine are BOSE. They are available. Usually in Tape deck, or Tape Deck/Single CD. Most would say to upgrade so that you get a more modern radio.. I am one of the Nah-Sayers on this, I prefer stock, and at the end of the day is usually cheaper... Unless you just want a newer style radio with touch screen and all that.
You can always upgrade to the VERY rare Nav system that had the amp in the head unit. I would have to search around and find that part number.. They do exist, but as I said, are EXTREMELY rare. Since they have not updated the map discs for those head units since 2012, I dont recommend it..
If you get the right head unit (post 2004.5) that has a BAND button, instead of a AM/FM button, you can add bluetooth. Thats what I have done with most of my vehicles. And with the radio I just got from @Jexnell , I can even do it on my wives Pontiac (I hope!)
Let me know if you want me to find the part numbers for a Non-Bose headunit, and if you want to have the bluetooth ability.
@Mooseman - Probably wanna rename this thread to @movietvet's 2002 TB Build Thread since we are working on fixing a lot of things?
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Moved to Technical discussion since it's not really a build per se.
@movietvet , in the future, please start new threads for each issue. It's not just for keeping the threads clean and uncluttered, it's so if someone sees the title of your problem, they may have the solution for it.
@movietvet , in the future, please start new threads for each issue. It's not just for keeping the threads clean and uncluttered, it's so if someone sees the title of your problem, they may have the solution for it.
I am gonna take the working left rear speaker and try it at the other three doors. Taking the door skins off is pretty easy to do. New Interstate battery is tomorrow. If my girl goes to her property north of Seattle, tomorrow or Tuesday, I am gonna get all the fluids done while she takes another vehicle we have.