WTT: MagnaFlow Muffler for OEM
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Canary2323
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- Mar 31, 2012
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Why do you want to go back to stock? And sidenote, Midas sucks bunch of scumbags always charging for shit not needed. OK I'm done.
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fireman4215
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- Dec 18, 2011
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Mooseman said:
I recommend Hooker aerochamber for our engines. Ive had mine for a year and love it. Its hardly noticeable when at low rpms, but as soon as you get on the throttle it roars!
- Dec 16, 2011
- 52
Yeah that was me. The cops in my town have nothing better to do than to write stupid tickets do this has to go. I personally love it and hate to get rid of hit but I've been pulled over for it twice now.
It's not even loud lol. It has a nice low rumble but isn't loud. At 6rpm it starts to scream. I love it but I'd rather not deal with the police...
It's not even loud lol. It has a nice low rumble but isn't loud. At 6rpm it starts to scream. I love it but I'd rather not deal with the police...
kardain
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- Dec 16, 2011
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If your state has a "no louder than stock" law, the burden of proof is on the LEO to justify you are louder than stock. As this is a subjective law, it is possible to keep your exhaust provided an objective test is done (dB test from a fixed distance, stock vs yours). Saying "it sounds like it's louder" with nothing to back it up is very difficult to hold up if you were to fight the ticket. Ask me how I know that last part, lol.
If your state follows the SEMA model (85-95 dB from a fixed distance) as long as you are below that, any further incidents may be looked at as harassment.
Replacing with OEM or OEM equivalent aftermarket is no guarantee. Manufacturing variations in components cause an unequal noise level, even in new vehicles.
If your state follows the SEMA model (85-95 dB from a fixed distance) as long as you are below that, any further incidents may be looked at as harassment.
Replacing with OEM or OEM equivalent aftermarket is no guarantee. Manufacturing variations in components cause an unequal noise level, even in new vehicles.
kardain
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- Dec 16, 2011
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Because you cannot hear the exhaust whereas I can (and my exhaust is still all OEM parts), it makes it a subjective comparison and is the basis of the OP's quandry. To make it objective, a side by side test with a dB meter is required.
While an aftermarket exhaust can amplify the exhaust volume (or even just removing the rear res), if done correctly it can also keep the volume at or near to OEM levels.
On edit: By allowing subjectivity to drive a punishment, the law itself is flawed. People hear differently. This can be caused by genetics, environmental influence, accident, whatever. It places burden of proof on the accused (guilty until proven innocent) rather than on the accuser (innocent until proven guilty).
On edit part 2: Several states adopted this model initially, as it provided a hard and fast limit to exhaust noise. Over time though, states have been moving away from this and going with a "no louder than stock". What defines louder than stock? At what RPM? From what distance? At what speed? Compared to a vehicle from where? What if you live in the rust belt and had to replace the exhaust due to environmental decay... you are not modifying it. See the problem with the law?
This is the exact text for Washington state (previously used the 95dB law):
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.37.390
The loophole is "muffler originally installed on the vehicle". What is to say that by swapping the OEM muffler with a magnaflow doesn't change the volume? Since the law is implying using your vehicle alone as the point of comparison, if the original muffler has been discarded there is nothing to compare against.
Keep in mind... I am not a lawyer....
While an aftermarket exhaust can amplify the exhaust volume (or even just removing the rear res), if done correctly it can also keep the volume at or near to OEM levels.
On edit: By allowing subjectivity to drive a punishment, the law itself is flawed. People hear differently. This can be caused by genetics, environmental influence, accident, whatever. It places burden of proof on the accused (guilty until proven innocent) rather than on the accuser (innocent until proven guilty).
On edit part 2: Several states adopted this model initially, as it provided a hard and fast limit to exhaust noise. Over time though, states have been moving away from this and going with a "no louder than stock". What defines louder than stock? At what RPM? From what distance? At what speed? Compared to a vehicle from where? What if you live in the rust belt and had to replace the exhaust due to environmental decay... you are not modifying it. See the problem with the law?
This is the exact text for Washington state (previously used the 95dB law):
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.37.390
The loophole is "muffler originally installed on the vehicle". What is to say that by swapping the OEM muffler with a magnaflow doesn't change the volume? Since the law is implying using your vehicle alone as the point of comparison, if the original muffler has been discarded there is nothing to compare against.
Keep in mind... I am not a lawyer....
fireman4215
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- Dec 18, 2011
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Ace1875 said:
I got the single in dual out. Part # 21518HKR
I have had it for a year and it still sounds like it did when it was new. I can put a sound clip up if ya want.
fireman4215
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- Dec 18, 2011
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03envoy said:I am looking for a muffler put one up for melol Thanks!
The wind is strong today. But it shows that when the car is idling it is silent, but as soon as you put the throttle down its roars. High voltage has the same set up and last i talked to him his still sounds great.
fireman4215
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- Dec 18, 2011
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Ok Ill get a curb view of it. Ill post it up tomorrow Im already at work and the wind is horrible tonight.
fireman4215
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- Dec 18, 2011
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Heres the videos of both low rpms and higher rpms. My Video camera didnt feel like working today so I was forced to use my phone so I'll apologize in advance for the crappy iphone quality.
High Rpms
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- Dec 16, 2011
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fireman4215 said:Heres the videos of both low rpms and higher rpms. My Video camera didnt feel like working today so I was forced to use my phone so I'll apologize in advance for the crappy iphone quality.
High Rpms
Low Rpms
Ummm thanks for the thread jack? Last time I check this was my for sale thread...