Boatman said:I'd be looking for a traffic heavy daily driver 15 miles a day, with 1-2 monthly long hauls roughly 1000 miles round trip. I don't haul, anything more than a small trailer and lawn mower, ATV. I'd like a more performance type tire though. And something that's good in the rain, that's probably one of my highest request. Does that help?
Boatman said:I'd be looking for a traffic heavy daily driver 15 miles a day, with 1-2 monthly long hauls roughly 1000 miles round trip. I don't haul, anything more than a small trailer and lawn mower, ATV. I'd like a more performance type tire though. And something that's good in the rain, that's probably one of my highest request. Does that help?
Playsinsnow said:If you want a great rain traction, get the michelin cross terrains.
HARDTRAILZ said:For all around pavement in multiple conditions and daily driving...General makes some nice tires. On my DD the one I have really inspire confidence were the previous left you feeling more unsure in rain or snow or even high speed coprnering.
mikekey said:I gotta agree. My Generals were great tires. I'd run them again in a heartbeat if they came in my current size. Man they did great driving all across the country in down pours and everything. Great tires.
I run Toyo Open Country AT2.Inert_Static said:How are the general's in the snow as an all season tire ?
navigator said:I run Toyo Open Country AT2.
They are likely more aggressive than you want but they are really quiet for an aggressive AT tire.
I ran Toyo's on my wife's minivan and liked them alot as well.
They seem to be good value.
HARDTRAILZ said:What the hell does this tell him about the General's? He asked specific question, that you even quoted, then you promptly gave a useless answer to.
forgive me for using the "reply with quote" instead of "reply"HARDTRAILZ said:What the hell does this tell him about the General's? He asked specific question, that you even quoted, then you promptly gave a useless answer to.
seanpooh said:For me, Generals are great tires for the dry summer pavement. They are cheap especially used and stock size.
The downfall is thread life is horrible, I get ~20K miles on a pair on the rear which I swap left to right every month for some even wear. But for the price, that's how long I expected them to last.
Also Generals do OK in rain but I don't like the snow traction at all with them. The tread design really isn't for snow. And trust me, I know General tires. I've gone through 20 Generals in a span of 2-3 years. I've been delivering pizzas for 3 years...
This winter I picked up a pair of used Michelin LTX MS with 10-11/32nd threads (they were patched). They have really good traction in the snow, by far the best tires I've ever had so far.
seanpooh said:For me, Generals are great tires for the dry summer pavement. They are cheap especially used and stock size.
The downfall is thread life is horrible, I get ~20K miles on a pair on the rear which I swap left to right every month for some even wear. But for the price, that's how long I expected them to last.
Also Generals do OK in rain but I don't like the snow traction at all with them. The tread design really isn't for snow. And trust me, I know General tires. I've gone through 20 Generals in a span of 2-3 years. I've been delivering pizzas for 3 years...
This winter I picked up a pair of used Michelin LTX MS with 10-11/32nd threads (they were patched). They have really good traction in the snow, by far the best tires I've ever had so far.
Playsinsnow said:I agree the LTX m/s is BY FAR the best non snow tire I have used in the snow. Worth every cent. Wet road handling too is second to none.
navigator said:I run Toyo Open Country AT2.
They are likely more aggressive than you want but they are really quiet for an aggressive AT tire.
I ran Toyo's on my wife's minivan and liked them alot as well.
They seem to be good value.
blazinlow89 said:That can give us some ideas to help you out, one last thing would be your stock wheel/tire size. IIRC you should have 17's, but I could be mistaken.
I have always gone with an AT tire as I do drive in the woods and off road from time to time, and the extra traction helps when I need it. That being said I bought a set of Pirelli Scorpion ATR's and must say that even though the tread does not appear very aggressive, these things keep surprising me. They are quite on the highway, do very well in rain and kicked ass in the snow today (thankfully). I cannot speak for tread longevity as I have only had them for a few months.
I am sure some other guys could chime in as well with more options and opinions.
hayes said:I haven't read past here yet, but you don't want the Pirelli. They are awful tires. (just my opinion, of course). I worked at a large tire chain for six years and never heard anything good about the Pirellis.
My recommendation would be 265/65r17 Hankook ATMs. They are a great on road and decent off road tire. They last a long time. In the 265/65r17 size, they fill in the wheel wells nicely.
Inert_Static said:How are the general's in the snow as an all season tire ?
C-ya said:I bought my TB August 2012 with new General Grabber HTS', stock size 245/65-17. They are a great dry tire, quiet on the road and handle great. No flex that I can feel. In the wet, they really shine. Great traction, no slip, push water out of the way with no problems. Living in MI, I get to experience that other form of water - the frozen kind. These tires are nicely siped and do very well in the snow and slush. Obviously, they are not ice tires. I can feel the ABS kick in at some stop signs, but unless you have dedicated ice tires or studs, you'll get that. Like someone else said, drive for the conditions. I drive slower and brake sooner and lighter when I even think there may be ice.
My boss won a set of tires in a golf long drive contest and got the HTS' for his XL Envoy. He said they are best tires he's had on it for driving in the snow (he just got them put on a month ago).
I highly recommend the HTS for our platform.
(As an aside, there are four of us here at a company of around 35 employees that have a 360/370. Kinda neat that we can bounce questions off of each other.)
seanpooh said:For me, Generals are great tires for the dry summer pavement. They are cheap especially used and stock size.
The downfall is thread life is horrible, I get ~20K miles on a pair on the rear which I swap left to right every month for some even wear. But for the price, that's how long I expected them to last.
Also Generals do OK in rain but I don't like the snow traction at all with them. The tread design really isn't for snow. And trust me, I know General tires. I've gone through 20 Generals in a span of 2-3 years. I've been delivering pizzas for 3 years...
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Rs8892 said:As far as the generals are you guys talking about the grabbers AT2? Any one think about the cooper discovery AT3? I have read heard good things about them.
Boatman said:Thanks for the advice so far I think I have narrowed it down to 2-3 tires. My only question now is none of the tire sizes y'all listed match what's on my TB now, did I buy my TB with the wrong size tire on it? Check it out.
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boatman said:thanks for the advice so far i think i have narrowed it down to 2-3 tires. My only question now is none of the tire sizes y'all listed match what's on my tb now, did i buy my tb with the wrong size tire on it? Check it out.
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