Thanks...I must have taken a hundred pictures in 15 minutes with the DSLR. I usually just use the auto setting with no flash and it comes out gucci. I had to go into the shutter priority mode and play around with the light meter and f-stop with a 30 second exposure before i got the effect i was looking for. Did not think i would need a tripod so i left it at home. Wished i had it though because it sucked staying perfectly still for 30 seconds. I did not think any of the pictures would work until i got them on the computer. That picture was the only one the that the envoy did not look like a shadow. Next choice of pictures that i posted in the post whore thread. Night sky with stars and a full moon providing light. Was a blue moon that night.