Best way to fix this....RUST(Pic Heavy)

Cable810

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Dec 5, 2011
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Rear Lift Gate
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Left Passenger Door

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The rest of the doors aren't as bad as the one. They have bubbly paint and small rust spots.

So what would be the best way for me to repair this??? I allready have a Rust stopper(Ospho) I'm thinking for inside the Door and lift gate, Wire Brush the Rust, hit it with Ospho and paint it.

FIRE AWAY!!!
 

davenay67

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Jan 16, 2012
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Not overly bad. Time to fix it before it gets worse and creates real perforation.

Fixing the rust is easy, but the colour-matching afterwards is where the real expertise comes in.

If nothing else, you want to put some kind of fluid rust preventative into the panels and block more water from adding to this rust.
 

Jkust

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Dec 4, 2011
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My wife's Rainier started rusting well before we got it at 40,000 miles. Luckily only the bottom of the doors and not too bad. I actually got the dealer to fix it under the rust warranty. No arguments, no telling me the warranty only covers perforations just fixed it and done. I haven't had a car since my 1980's cars rust so quickly under the doors. You have some decent body work ahead of you to fix that lift gate. What does the lip of your hood look like?
 

Sparky

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Dec 4, 2011
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Your doors don't look terrible. How are your rear wheel wells?

I think it is a poor design on these doors and the liftgate. The liftgate plate insert seal goes bad and lets water into the innards of the liftgate, rusting the bottom of it out. The door skins were folded over but not smoothed or sealed well, so the water (especially salt water) gets caught in the seam and rusts the seam out, and spreads from there.

My liftgate is all brown and crusty across the whole bottom. By the time I try to get it fixed and replace the glass (defrost doesn't work) I might as well just replace the whole liftgate. It's almost cheaper. My rear wheel wells are crusty, particularly the driver side.

Rust belt sucks!
 

Cable810

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Jkust said:
My wife's Rainier started rusting well before we got it at 40,000 miles. Luckily only the bottom of the doors and not too bad. I actually got the dealer to fix it under the rust warranty. No arguments, no telling me the warranty only covers perforations just fixed it and done. I haven't had a car since my 1980's cars rust so quickly under the doors. You have some decent body work ahead of you to fix that lift gate. What does the lip of your hood look like?

The hood is bad
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JosueLT

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Nov 20, 2011
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Check out this thread. (I don't think you have to register) It's of a F-150 I fixed a bunch of rust on at work, should give you a good idea of what you'd be getting into. :biggrin:

Team Ohio rust repair! (56K die)
 

Opeth

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Mar 25, 2012
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Wire wheel on an angle grinder, POR-15... Use the whole prep process they offer too. Touch up paint.
 

Cable810

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JosueLT said:
Check out this thread. (I don't think you have to register) It's of a F-150 I fixed a bunch of rust on at work, should give you a good idea of what you'd be getting into. :biggrin:

Team Ohio rust repair! (56K die)

Just on a side note how much would you sy to get it done? I'd be willing to do the inside of the doors since no one will see, but I'm not that confident for the rest.... I hate rust.......
 

HARDTRAILZ

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I need to do the inside of my doors too.
 

oh05ext

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Dec 7, 2011
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does anyone know the coverage for the rust warranty???our truck sat on dealer lots for over a year before we got it and its getting bad.
 

davenay67

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Jan 16, 2012
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One word....Preparation.

I turned this rusty mess (lower windshield frame on a Jeep TJ)....

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....into this using lots of wire brushing and some rust killer....

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....and then used some metal putty to re-form the shape in prep for painting....

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IMHO, the MOST IMPORTANT part of this job was applying rust preventer to the inside of the windshield frame after the whole job was finished and painted. The inside panel is where the rust started and would have come right back again if it were not for the waxy rust preventer that was sprayed in there..!!
 

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jbones

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Are they still salting heavy in MI?

Growing up in Michigan, all our family cars, and my cars where Zeibarted. Man they used to dump a shit load of road salt back then. Made for a nice ugly hood stripe on my “67” Impala winter beater one year, almost fired from Jim Gilmore Cadillac Pontiac for that one!
 

Matt

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Cable810 said:
The hood is bad
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That's nowhere near as bad as mine. I've now got a bug guard hiding it until I can get a new hood. I actually have a hole or two on the inside bottom edge of the hood.
 

davenay67

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Matt said:
That's nowhere near as bad as mine. I've now got a bug guard hiding it until I can get a new hood. I actually have a hole or two on the inside bottom edge of the hood.

I had 2 paint blisters on the leading edge of the hood, which by the time I was finished removing all the rust with a wire brush had turned into 2 dime-sized holes.

Fear not, I used my trusty epoxy-metal putty to hold a strip of aluminum (bought on a roll from Menards - roofing section) on the back edge of the hood, then used Bondo to fill the hole (which had a nice metal backing now). Then it was a case of fine-sanding and paint touch up. Not the prettiest repair, but better than rust or holes. Did this a year ago and it still is holding up great. You can only see the repair if you get very close to the hood.
 

JosueLT

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Cable810 said:
Just on a side note how much would you sy to get it done? I'd be willing to do the inside of the doors since no one will see, but I'm not that confident for the rest.... I hate rust.......

Every shop will quote you a different amount, so it's hard to say. I'm not good with giving quotes, I just do the work. lol

That F-150 cost the guy well over $3000 though...:crazy:
 

Kuchar09

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Dec 4, 2011
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Looks like you have a bit more rust than me but my plan to try and stop the rust under my doors is to sand blast and wire brush everything I can the best I can and spray some rust stopper stuff inside the door to attempt and stop the rust.
Then I'm looking at doing raptor liner on the inside of the doors and outside the doors up to the bend in the doors. I'm hoping that this will help stop the rust before its to late... stupid Michigan roads :hissyfit:
I'm not sold on the raptor liner idea but it sure beats paying to paint each door and then I also get to raptor liner my front bumper!!!
 

joeredspecial

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Mar 23, 2012
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I'd love to find a good and affordable touch up guy in the metro Detroit area. It would be great if anyone knows of someone. I'm getting some bubbling under the hood that I want to get fixed sooner rather than later. I also took out a mailbox about 4 years ago with my right fender and would like that fixed. And as of tonight my bumper has some fresh scratches. (I'm a pretty awesome driver but I just made myself sounds pretty terrible. Two little things in 5 years isn't too bad :tongue:)

I wanted to avoid the problem of having to repaint the whole front as most body shops do.

So does anyone know of someone who can do touchup and color matching/blending around here? Maybe I'll make a thread in the MI section tomorrow.
 

Cable810

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I know of a shop up here that does great body work.
 

joeredspecial

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Cable810 said:
I know of a shop up here that does great body work.

I need to find one around here and decide if it's worth it. Ten years of Michigan winters and previous owners who didn't seem to take care of my Trailblazer have really done a job on it. I sure am glad my rust isn't as bad as yours though. How's the underbody? Mine's terrible.
 

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