50000 mile engine services

Ghost

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Im at 50,000mi as of now what ate some key services I need to do with my 04 ext tb ? No 4x4, auto transmission.

I mainly use jiffylube.
 

The_Roadie

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Ghost said:
I mainly use jiffylube.
Trust them to over-recommend everything, including oil change intervals. Are you using the built-in Oil Life Monitoring system?

Trust them to change nothing that you can't confirm they did properly afterward.

Highly recommend checking the Owner's Manual for the GM recommended service intervals. Basically if you're current on oil, no other fluid needs to be changed at 50K. Just check the levels. A competent and honest independent mechanic can do that for you without any worry that they're going to rip you off by recommending a CHANGE when only a CHECK is needed.

Also check Yelp for reviews and to locate such a mechanic.

Friends don't let friends use Quicky Lube joints.
 

Boricua SS

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i would say rear diff, and a trans pan drop and filter change, or at least check them. some people flush the tranny fluid.. but thats an ongoing debate whether to flush or just pan drop... i did a coolant flush at 30k miles as well.. but i have an SS.. i dont know if thats necessary for an I6... and i would check your throttle body as well..

edit: Roadie beat me to the punch too lol...
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
Trust them to over-recommend everything, including oil change intervals. Are you using the built-in Oil Life Monitoring system?

Trust them to change nothing that you can't confirm they did properly afterward.

Highly recommend checking the Owner's Manu for the GM recommended service intervals. Basically if you're current on oil, no other fluid needs to be changed at 50K. Just check the levels. A competent and honest independent mechanic can do that for you without any worry that they're going to rip you off by recommending a CHANGE when only a CHECK is needed.

Also check Yelp for reviews and to locate such a mechanic.

Friends don't let friends use Quicky Lube joints.

Oil life system what ??? I want that ! What is it ? I need it now


Lol only thing I pay at the jiflube is oil changes. I do my own air filter, bulbs, tire rotations, fuel system treatments.

Boricua SS said:
i would say rear diff, and a trans pan drop and filter change, or at least check them. some people flush the tranny fluid.. but thats an ongoing debate whether to flush or just pan drop... i did a coolant flush at 30k miles as well.. but i have an SS.. i dont know if thats necessary for an I6... and i would check your throttle body as well..

edit: Roadie beat me to the punch too lol...

Lol i did my thorttle body my self I even removed that plastic tube thing that it bolts to. I got my truck @ 30k im now at 50k. Iv noticed 2 to 3rd shift in tran is starting to hard shift ? Well it does it sometimes also at stop lights sometimes it feels like it is auto shifting wrong. Iv never flushed my tran before in any of my vehicles and im scares to will break something ?
 

McGMT

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the roadie said:
You have it. It's free and installed in 100% of the trucks. RTFM.

RTFM ... Hmmmm? Recently Transferred Farm Machinist?
 

Voymom

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McGMT said:
RTFM ... Hmmmm? Recently Transferred Farm Machinist?

It's Roadie language again, sometimes I just don't get that man :biggrin: :raspberry:


The oil life monitor is located in your DIC(Drivers information center) It can tell you the % of your oil life...like mine sits at 28% right now. If I had a picture I would show you.

Here is a picture...My DIC is where my MPG is. I have a button to cycle through things like, stop watch, oil life, and so forth.

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McGMT

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If you don't have a DIC your a woman... err wait, wrong subject. If you don't have a DIC it is a light on the cluster....
 

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Voymom said:
It's Roadie language again, sometimes I just don't get that man :biggrin: :raspberry:
I gotta say it.... Let me be the first to notify Google there's an outage in your neighborhood. :biggrin:

Read The Fine Manual

I honestly thought EVERYONE knew that one.

Note: the word "fine" is subject to regional variation. :cool:
 

Ghost

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This is BS ! I dnt have that on mine :sadcry: its just blank......?:thumbdown::banghead:
Will $150 get me a dic cluster ? Is it plug and.play ? Im so tired of having this fancy truck with no fancy dials and buttons !!!
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
Want fancy, buy fancy.
In the first place, I mean......

TBO i didnt know about all of these cool stuff on the TB until i joined GMTN. thanks alot ! lol

alright ill just buy this and be done with it


Since the last cluster i found for my truck is $400 and plain without the sleek aluminum backing etc etc that one is Kilometer but thats okay


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So ill get the tran flushed with the pan dropped next week. i will not be going to jiflube cause there price are redonkulis.
 

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The DIC-filled cluster does you no good without the steering wheel with required DIC-control buttons, and the harness and clockspring to go with it. Not a cheap upgrade for the DIC-less trucks. There is an alternative upgrade path for a DIC-transplant, but I'll just mention it exists, and you can practice your hunting skills. It's out there.

Ghost said:
... i will not be going to jiflube cause there price are redonkulis.
Prices are the least of their serious offenses against the environment and honest dealings with their victims. They are the moral equivalent of a dentist advising you to come in every month for a teeth cleaning. And when you go in, every month, they tell you you have lice in your hair and they upsell you on a $200 hair lice treatment while you get your teeth cleaned.

Shun them.
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
The DIC-filled cluster does you no good without the steering wheel with required DIC-control buttons, and the harness and clockspring to go with it. Not a cheap upgrade for the DIC-less trucks. There is an alternative upgrade path for a DIC-transplant, but I'll just mention it exists, and you can practice your hunting skills. It's out there.

Prices are the least of their serious offenses against the environment and honest dealings with their victims. They are the moral equivalent of a dentist advising you to come in every month for a teeth cleaning. And when you go in, every month, they tell you you have lice in your hair and they upsell you on a $200 hair lice treatment while you get your teeth cleaned.

Shun them.

ScanGuage II
 

Jkust

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So then your steeringwheel doesn't have all the buttons on it? They are actually on the dash of the 9-7x for anybody who cares.
I had my oil changed yesterday at the local Firestone and you feel scummy going in and worse going out. They recommended a ton of stuff that has already been done. I asked them to rock the car and let me know where they thought the squeek that is constant with every bump might be coming from and since I wouldn't pay their 10$ fee, they said they couldn't make it squeek. They have gotten to the point where every thing is an upcharge.
 

Ghost

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Jkust said:
So then your steeringwheel doesn't have all the buttons on it? They are actually on the dash of the 9-7x for anybody who cares.
I had my oil changed yesterday at the local Firestone and you feel scummy going in and worse going out. They recommended a ton of stuff that has already been done. I asked them to rock the car and let me know where they thought the squeek that is constant with every bump might be coming from and since I wouldn't pay their 10$ fee, they said they couldn't make it squeek. They have gotten to the point where every thing is an upcharge.

Oh man Firestone is the worst ever!!!!
My rear hatch window rattles but no way am I going to pay some clown at some shop to find it or fix it.:banghead:
 

Jkust

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the roadie said:
For God's sake, why?!?!? :eek: :no: :lipsrsealed:

Do they have topless female mechanics or anything else to recommend them?

No they have short, fat, bearded guys. Well the choices within a block of eachother are Walmart, Firestone, Goodyear and Jiffy lube. Firestone had a 15$ coupon which becomes 25$ out the door for the sixth quart of oil and 'shop supplies'. They are widely renound as a rip off shop as is Goodyear who screwed me on something a few years back, and I won't go to Walmart or Jiffy lube no matter what. The only reason I go there is that once in a while they will miraculously catch something wrong whereas Walmart and Jiffy don't even have that capability. Although I never paid attention enough, my dad was a career auto mechanic and so I know enough to know when they are feeding me a line of bs which is often. I used to change my oil myself for years but had one too many issues with oil on the garage floor and not being able to get the filter off plus my time is just worth more now than back in the day.

I go to a small mom and pop shop who I actually trust when something serious needs fixing but not since my first Rainier three 360's ago have I had to visit. They are out of the way though.
 

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Jkust said:
... Firestone ...widely renound as a rip off shop as is Goodyear who screwed me on something a few years back, ...
Since I treat this forum as my personal soapbox sometimes, let me pontificate: Bad shops need to die or change. By patronizing them, you enable them to stay alive, and worse - to victimize others. Have you added an honest review to their Yelp profile? If not, you should. If not for yourself, for your fellow citizens. Don't use them when their coupon is good. Don't use them when you can supervise them and QA their work. A boycott should be a boycott. And let them know why you've left them. My advice is to not patronize ANY SHOP whose reputation or behavior towards me is bad - not just patronize the "last one left". Take a stand:

You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill
I go to a small mom and pop shop who I actually trust ... They are out of the way though.
Man, this says it all. That mom & pop shop may not be there next time you need them if you don't help keep them alive by also bringing your oil changes to them. So it's a couple of bucks more. My principles are worth it. YMMV. I do my own fluids except transmission (a long story) and I let an independent GM-only specialist do that. That guy saves my butt at least once a year, so I help him out by leaving the Roadiemobile there for all week if necessary (if I'm going on a business trip) and he can work it into a gap in his schedule and we both win.
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
The DIC-filled cluster does you no good without the steering wheel with required DIC-control buttons, and the harness and clockspring to go with it. Not a cheap upgrade for the DIC-less trucks. There is an alternative upgrade path for a DIC-transplant, but I'll just mention it exists, and you can practice your hunting skills. It's out there.

Prices are the least of their serious offenses against the environment and honest dealings with their victims. They are the moral equivalent of a dentist advising you to come in every month for a teeth cleaning. And when you go in, every month, they tell you you have lice in your hair and they upsell you on a $200 hair lice treatment while you get your teeth cleaned.

Shun them.

Are you sure about the DIC ? Cause I was just told at the dealership buttons on the steering wheel aren't needed with the cluster
 

McGMT

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Ghost said:
Are you sure about the DIC ? Cause I was just told at the dealership buttons on the steering wheel aren't needed with the cluster

You just can't use all the functions without the buttons... But you can wire up your ownnn buttons.. And I found about 20 TB speedos with dic's for around 100 bucks...
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
Huh? Unsure? Me? [QUOTE ]... just told LIES at the dealership...
There, I fixed your post.[/QUOTE]

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Wooluf1952

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Ghost said:
Are you sure about the DIC ? Cause I was just told at the dealership buttons on the steering wheel aren't needed with the cluster

^^ Your post

the roadie said:
Huh? Unsure? Me? [QUOTE ]... just told LIES at the dealership...
There, I fixed your post.[/QUOTE]

Roadies post
 

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Seriously, I wish dealers (actually the service writers - a commission-based position, not known for having deep technical knowledge of every possible platform that rolls through the door) would just admit they don't know something, rather than make stuff up.

The gauge cluster will work just fine without steering wheel buttons, but the DIC cannot be controlled without either steering wheel buttons (and the harness and clockspring that supports them) *or* substitute buttons mounted elsewhere.
 

Ghost

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the roadie said:
Seriously, I wish dealers (actually the service writers - a commission-based position, not known for having deep technical knowledge of every possible platform that rolls through the door) would just admit they don't know something, rather than make stuff up.

The gauge cluster will work just fine without steering wheel buttons, but the DIC cannot be controlled without either steering wheel buttons (and the harness and clockspring that supports them) *or* substitute buttons mounted elsewhere.

I believe you over the dealership. Well I want to purchase a dic and am going to but I may need help wiring the switches in as I have a spot in my switch box in the console for just my radios and ext lights...etc
 

McGMT

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the roadie said:
Seriously, I wish dealers (actually the service writers - a commission-based position, not known for having deep technical knowledge of every possible platform that rolls through the door) would just admit they don't know something, rather than make stuff up.

The gauge cluster will work just fine without steering wheel buttons, but the DIC cannot be controlled without either steering wheel buttons (and the harness and clockspring that supports them) *or* substitute buttons mounted elsewhere.

That's pretty much what my reply to his PM earlier said... Only thing you can control without buttons is the ODO -Trip A,B. Four momentary buttons and some wire n POW you have a functional DIC...

Oh, and I found some realllly cheap junkyard clusters...
 

Ghost

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Okay, so I vacuumed(sp) out the truck, changed the oil added marvel mystery oil, flush fuel system (also added mystery oil), added cruise control, checked all the psi in tires, lubed all hinges cleaned all the light bulb plugs with spray. Still need to flush trans...
 

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