Was out with the family today driving in the Costco parking lot when I felt a stumble and then noticed all the lights dimmed a bit. So the first reaction was to look at the tac and it showed proper rpm's. No dip and engine running well. Then I looked at the volts gauge and noticed it was low at about 12 or 13 volts. I drove the truck around for about 30 seconds and the alternator came back up to over 14 volts again. So to me this means I need a new alternator as mine is about to fail. Has anyone experienced this with our alternators?
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Mine has done the same thing, a couple times a week I would say. Ive had it for over a year. I think I had noticed it about a month or so after I bought it. Doesn't bother me at all. Usually drops for a few seconds at like a stop light then back to normal. I'm not replacing it until never recovers lol...
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Mine has never dropped below 12v just enough to notice it. I'm not going to just replace it and it just be something that occurs occasionally. But that's just my opinion. Everyone has their own. Not that cheap to just buy a new one on a whim, but I agree it may fail sometime, but who knows.CaptainXL said:
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Mine did that a few times and I wiggled the signal wire here (in pic) when it was acting up at it came back to life. Once I realized it may be the culprit I pulled the connector and sprayed some electronics cleaner in the connector and has been fine since.
Granted you will have a low voltage on startup on occasion allowing the motor to settle into an idle before the ECM engages the charging system. I trust this is not what you are experiencing.
Granted you will have a low voltage on startup on occasion allowing the motor to settle into an idle before the ECM engages the charging system. I trust this is not what you are experiencing.
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shrek77 said:
Mine does this in the winter, usually at a light when I am stopped. Not even a few seconds more like just a dip and then right back up. Usually happens when I have a high load, such as heater, heated seats, head lights on because it is dark. I always thought it was just the BCM just making an adjustment like it does on start up.
Mine has done the same thing since I bought it. That little stumble with low voltage. I know it's not the throttle body because it is brand new. I just replaced the thermostat this weekend and therefore removed / re-seated the alternator connector. I will know in a couple days if that fixed the issue.
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CaptainXL said:
Not to knock your winters but its usually the real cold days here -30C, maybe that has something to do with it, or perhaps it is the truck telling we BOTH should have stayed home. LOL
RedEnvoyDenali said:
It's ok, I used to live in northern Ontario and North Dakota so I know what a real US winter is like. It was rainy and relatively warm today about 36F. I drove it the last couple weeks when it was 0F and it never did it. So not seeing the connection.
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My truck used to do this also. My alternator developed a bit of a squeak so I took it to a neighbor that rebuilds alternators and starters for several of the local shops. I figured a bearing was going bad in it and just needed to be swapped out. Instead, he said the commutator was doing the squeaking and the bearings were fine. I asked him to make it "like new" and $80 later I have my rebuilt alternator (which hasn't done the lights dim yet). He went ahead and put in new brushes, a voltage regulator, and a couple other small things. But the new commutator was the bulk of the expense at around $50. It was still cheaper than a $200 rebuilt from a parts store.
I need to state this though: I cannot prove this was a "cause and effect". But it seems like more than coincidence that my truck used to dim the lights for a few seconds while driving almost every time I drove it and in the two months since I put the junkyard and later my rebuilt alternator on it hasn't done it a single time. I didn't replace any other belt-driven accessories in that time.
While I had him rebuilding my alternator, I swapped in one I picked up from a junkyard so I could still use my vehicle. Do you have a buddy or a junkyard nearby you can try?
I need to state this though: I cannot prove this was a "cause and effect". But it seems like more than coincidence that my truck used to dim the lights for a few seconds while driving almost every time I drove it and in the two months since I put the junkyard and later my rebuilt alternator on it hasn't done it a single time. I didn't replace any other belt-driven accessories in that time.
While I had him rebuilding my alternator, I swapped in one I picked up from a junkyard so I could still use my vehicle. Do you have a buddy or a junkyard nearby you can try?
dfc739 said:
I would be doing a rebuild (just cause I like fixing stuff myself) rather than picking up a used one. Will just keep driving it and note if it does it again within say... a month. Failing that, I would be getting a new Delphi unit from a local retailer.
gmcman said:
Hmm, I will do that if it comes back. Will check continuity as well while wiggling the wires. But yes, it seems as if the field control signal from the PCM just disappeared like when performing a cold start of less than 32F.