Headlight and DRL ? ? ?

02tahoelt

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May 7, 2012
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Planning on doing a dual projector setup for the lights, if I do the DRL kill, will I lose the Delayed lights after I shut down truck and will I lose the Perimeter lights (in the Headlights) getting back in the truck when I disarm with factory alarm?

I've been talking with Smitty5150 and he can do some kind of LED setup like the Audi, but how can I hook that up & how would it look to the factory DRL wire if there's any wires. What do you guys thinks Audi LEDs or nothing at all. Also do you think the lights would look good color matched, Chrome, or Black?
Amber lens are coming out for sure, he also mentioned switchback LED lamps
Everyone's opinion is appreciated
Thanks

Again for you guys that don't know what the truck looks like, you guys all probably know what it looks like already, because I've posted it just about everywhere here it is again
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Matt

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02tahoelt said:
Planning on doing a dual projector setup for the lights, if I do the DRL kill, will I lose the Delayed lights after I shut down truck and will I lose the Perimeter lights (in the Headlights) getting back in the truck when I disarm with factory alarm?

IIRC, yes you will. I have the DRL Killer from tblazed and I don't have delayed headlights or perimeter headlights...I do have perimeter reverse lights.
 

Blckshdw

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Nov 20, 2011
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02tahoelt said:
... if I do the DRL kill, will I lose the Delayed lights after I shut down truck and will I lose the Perimeter lights (in the Headlights) getting back in the truck when I disarm with factory alarm?

Yes, you'll lose those front features.

02tahoelt said:
... how can I hook that up & how would it look to the factory DRL wire if there's any wires. What do you guys thinks Audi LEDs or nothing at all.

You can tie them into fuse #22 in the front block. That way they will come on only when you turn the key. That's how I hooked them up when I did the LED eyebrow mod a while back.

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02tahoelt said:
Also do you think the lights would look good color matched, Chrome, or Black?

Since you have a chrome grille and rims, chrome lights flows pretty nicely with it. Since you don't really have much else on there that's black, I think that would make them look out of place. Color matching them would be a nice touch though. :yes:

02tahoelt said:
Amber lens are coming out for sure, he also mentioned switchback LED lamps

Switchbacks are a must, but then again, I may be slightly biased :redface:
 

Boricua SS

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hmmm... must be something in earlier year vehicles, because in my '07, i still have delayed lights when i turn the truck off... takes usually about 15 seconds until they turn off once the truck is turned off..
 

02tahoelt

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Boricua SS said:
hmmm... must be something in earlier year vehicles, because in my '07, i still have delayed lights when i turn the truck off... takes usually about 15 seconds until they turn off once the truck is turned off..


I have delayed lights and perimeter lights, but am thinking about doing Dual projector setup. And the DRLs run on the low beam, but having projectors, you can't install the DRLs to the projectors because you'll fire the ballast, because the DRLs don't run on 100% power.
 

Boricua SS

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02tahoelt said:
I have delayed lights and perimeter lights, but am thinking about doing Dual projector setup. And the DRLs run on the low beam, but having projectors, you can't install the DRLs to the projectors because you'll fire the ballast, because the DRLs don't run on 100% power.

:rotfl:

i know all about HID's as i have 2 sets myself and a DRL Killer.. the drl's run at about 70% poweer and its a pulsated signal... i still have delayed lights and autop lights with my DRL Killer installed..
 

02tahoelt

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Boricua SS said:
:rotfl:

i know all about HID's as i have 2 sets myself and a DRL Killer.. the drl's run at about 70% poweer and its a pulsated signal... i still have delayed lights and autop lights with my DRL Killer installed..

Ok, well can anyone else chime me in. Thanks for your help. It's just that I have 1-no i'll lose Delayed and perimeter lighting and 1- Yes, I'll stay with my Delayed and perimeter lighting.
And more comments with low beam Hids and DRL kill, with respect of losing Delayed and perimeter lighting.
Also some comments on, if I should color matched or leave it chrome.
Sorry to steal your pic, but need it as a reference
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Voymom

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Feb 3, 2012
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02tahoelt said:
Ok, well can anyone else chime me in. Thanks for your help. It's just that I have 1-no i'll lose Delayed and perimeter lighting and 1- Yes, I'll stay with my Delayed and perimeter lighting.
And more comments with low beam Hids and DRL kill, with respect of losing Delayed and perimeter lighting.
Also some comments on, if I should color matched or leave it chrome.
Sorry to steal your pic, but need it as a reference
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I have an 03 envoy slt xl with low beam HID's 6000k with a g4 micro ballast. I also have the quad beam mod and the DRL kill mod. I still have delayed lighting, but absolutely no parameter lighting in the front, but we still have them in the back of the truck.

I really don't think there is a way around keeping the front parameter lighting either. If there is, I can let you know.

And honestly, it wasn't even noticeable. We have had the DRL kill, quad beam, and HID's for about 3 months....and hubby had to physically take me outside to prove that the parameter lighting in the front didn't work :redface: so it is hardly noticeable.

And I'm the type of truck owner that is obsessed with every sound, noise, bump, gurgle that it makes. I will get paranoid if a bug splatters on my windshield the wrong way(I'm not kidding either lol) and I never even noticed the parameter lights were gone. So....how big of a deal is it really??? Unless your parked out in the boonies with NO lights anywhere, and no flashlight, candle, flare, laser pointer, then I'd say it's not a huge loss. Besides, EVERYONE should carry some type pf back up light in their trucks as a means of an emergency roadside kit. And i'm not talking about the cheap kits you get with the car either.

And if it is that big of a deal to you in keeping the parameter lights, just don't do the DRL kill mod. Simply turn the light switch to the off position every time you start the truck. I hate to say it, but with these platforms...there are a lot of mods/aspects where you can't have your cake and eat your ice cream too....Or something like that lol. Sometimes it's one or the other....BUT the best part is, you can always go back to stock if you don't like it....sometimes lol
 

Blckshdw

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Nov 20, 2011
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:redface: Actually, I skipped right past the delayed shut off of the headlights at night. The mention of LEDs getting installed distracted me. I have the Jetttstream DRL killer, and I still have the delayed shut off, but lost everything else. Like Tami said, you won't really notice it when it's gone, and besides you JUST got the truck, so you won't have any withdrawl symptoms when it's gone anyway! :rotfl:

Also, an option for you, if you're really set on keeping the perimeter lighting, is to do the capacitor mod. It's cheaper than the DRL killer, and you can keep your stock functionality, without killing your HID ballasts. Of course, if you don't know what this is, you can run a quick search for it and do some light reading. :coffee:
 

02tahoelt

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May 7, 2012
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Was thinking about doing the dual projector setup and had a couple of questions
Is the DRL and Perimeter lights running on the same circuit and is there a chance I can possibly run power to LEDs to keep DRL and Perimeter lights working like OEM and won't have to do DRL kill but just wire the DRLs to the LEDs instead?
Because the answers am getting is, if I do DRL kill I'll lose perimeter lights on the headlights and stay with my Delayed Lighting without a problem.

Thanks for your help in advance
 

Blckshdw

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Nov 20, 2011
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It's generally a good idea to keep all your questions for a particular mod in the same thread, so people can read the history of questions and answers that have been given already. :twocents:

The commands for DRL and perimeter lighting is done in the BCM, so if you're dead set on having these features with doing a DRL kill mod, then you'd have to come up with something to feed off the BCM. Or like I said in your other thread, do the capcitor mod instead.
 

suburbs

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Jan 6, 2012
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You could always to my g-fab DRL mod. Cover the sensor on the center of the dash near the windshield with 4-5 layers of electrical tape. Works pretty well until I get into a town that has an actual radio shack to pick up the right capacitor.
 

Voymom

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Feb 3, 2012
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I really don't want to sound rude, and I apologize now if I offend you, but no matter how many times you ask, or how many posts you make, the answer to this specific question will always be the same.

The point is, you need to make a decision about what you really want, and what is worth keeping and not keeping for your Envoy. Modifications don't always go or do everything you want them to do. The people here who have helped with all types of modifications, have spent countless hours of their time, if not days learning these trucks and figuring out how to do specific mods, you may have to do the same if you want something to work a specific way and to your liking.

You won't notice the parameter lighting in the front being gone, and like Carlton said, you could do the capacitor mod as well. You won't be able to do just a DRL kill and have the outcome your looking for. Unless of course you find a way to do it.
 

MAY03LT

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Blckshdw said:
It's generally a good idea to keep all your questions for a particular mod in the same thread, so people can read the history of questions and answers that have been given already. :twocents:

:iagree:

02tahoelt said:
Is the DRL and Perimeter lights running on the same circuit

As far as the low beam headlights go, yes. The bcm grounds one wire to turn on the low beam headlights. DRLs, regular low beams, or low beams in perimeter lighting mode, that one wire does them all. The other lights that come on for perimeter lighting are handled on other circuits.

02tahoelt said:
is there a chance I can possibly run power to LEDs to keep DRL and Perimeter lights working like OEM and won't have to do DRL kill but just wire the DRLs to the LEDs instead?

Are you asking if only the LEDs can be used for DRL/perimeter lighting or the LEDs and the low beams?
 

02tahoelt

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MAY03LT said:
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As far as the low beam headlights go, yes. The bcm grounds one wire to turn on the low beam headlights. DRLs, regular low beams, or low beams in perimeter lighting mode, that one wire does them all. The other lights that come on for perimeter lighting are handled on other circuits.



Are you asking if only the LEDs can be used for DRL/perimeter lighting or the LEDs and the low beams?

Am asking if I can run an indepent wire from BCM or from where ever, to run LEDs as DRLs and perimeter lighting,
Because am doing dual projector, and if I do DRL kill I'll lose DRL and perimeter lighting.
 

MAY03LT

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02tahoelt said:
Am asking if I can run an indepent wire from BCM or from where ever, to run LEDs as DRLs and perimeter lighting,
Because am doing dual projector, and if I do DRL kill I'll lose DRL and perimeter lighting.

I remember someone did something like this on the other site. They wired the LEDs into the low beam connectors to use them for DRL/perimeter and also did the cap mod to give the LEDs full power.

The low beam HID relay harness was wired so that the HIDs only turned on when the headlight switch was all the way to the right or autolights were on. There was one wire that was run from the bcm to the HID relay harness and was used to ground 85 of the HID relay.

So I suppose it's doable, provided you're willing to do some custom wiring.:cool:
 

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