Proper tire rotation pattern? How often?

c good

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Envoy. 4x4 Falken Wild peak trails. Just a 4 tire rotation....not including the spare.

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Mooseman

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Found this at TireRack:

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Personally, I'd use the X pattern. Simpler and you need only two jacks.
 

TJBaker57

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I once owned a 1986 Pontiac Trans Am. The wheels themselves were different, front vs rear. And the tires were directional as well, meaning they were made to roll one way only. So every tire rotation required a full breakdown and rebalbance of all 4 wheels/tires. What a PITA!!
 

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Redbeard

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As for "how often" to rotate tires, I rotate every oil change. I figure I already have 1/2 the vehicle up in the air and most of my tools are out and while waiting for the oil to finish draining why not make use of the time. The past 10-20 years I have been rigorous in rotating my tires I am surprised at the additional milage the tires give me. Plus it makes me look for any abnormal tire wear that might be starting and a quick check of the rotors and brake pads.
 

northcreek

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There has been some recent thinking on wether or not rotating tires is needed. The thinking is that cars with independent f/r suspension, awd, abs, etc. generally wear tires quite evenly .
I've been checking my tires with a gauge and there might be some truth to this as the wear front to back has been uniform.
I think the danger in this thinking is that it assumes that your wheel alignment will stay true... :undecided:
 

Mooseman

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I've always noticed that the front tires wear more on the edges due to turning and the rears wear evenly flat so rotating would even that out.
 

c good

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Shop I bought tires at (Discount Tire) just rotated them front to back. No cross pattern. Did them at 7k miles. All good again. Lugs torqued to 100 ft lb. I always recheck lug nuts with my own torque wrench and everything is good.
 

jerflash

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I once owned a 1986 Pontiac Trans Am. The wheels themselves were different, front vs rear. And the tires were directional as well, meaning they were made to roll one way only. So every tire rotation required a full breakdown and rebalbance of all 4 wheels/tires. What a PITA!!
i had a 89 that was the same... the money and time cost of roatating was silly af. never did it and it was fine. also the same on my 2002 ws6, 17x9 front 17x10.5 rear.

I never liked the idea of doing the cross pattern, meaning that tires would turn the opposite direction. front to back is fine if wheels are the same. spend time on the turning axle and then on the straight axle
 

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