2004 Trailblazer LS Wont Turnover

[808_LS_EXT]

I'm sorry it took so long but I did get that bezel shipped. It wouldnt safely fit in a flat rate box but its on the way. Tracking # 9400109699938909710768

Received!

... and it fits snug with only 3 clips

 

[808_LS_EXT]

• I got a NOID light but havent used it yet. I just noticed I dont get that CLUNK from the throttle body when I turn the key anymore. I know I use to get it but not now "one thing after another"

Ugh.

Any other updates?

 

[CollectorThis]

Received!

... and it fits snug with only 3 clips

Awesome.

Ugh.

Any other updates?

Well... I noticed that the black harness that plugs into the under the hood fuse block smells like burnt plastic. I've decided to order some heat shrink stuff and I'm going to splice in a new one (about 30 wires) Maybe that will atleast get it to try to crank when I turn the key.

 

[CollectorThis]

Well... I got the stuff to splice the wires but I've been to nervous to do it. I did plug up a code reader but it would not connect. The OBD port shows power with a test light though. I do think that black harness is part of the issue.

 

[Mounce]

I'm not sure what harness you're talking about (haven't looked at them much) but it's just a matter of matching colors, go one at a time. Cut one, splice it, then move on to the next. That way you'll only have one wire loose at a time and there will be no way to get them mixed up. I would HIGHLY recommend soldering the wires, butt-connectors are bulky and un-trustable.

Good luck.

 

[CollectorThis]

I'm not sure what harness you're talking about (haven't looked at them much) but it's just a matter of matching colors, go one at a time. Cut one, splice it, then move on to the next. That way you'll only have one wire loose at a time and there will be no way to get them mixed up. I would HIGHLY recommend soldering the wires, butt-connectors are bulky and un-trustable.

Good luck.

Thank Mounce. If the weather is ok tomorrow I'll give it a shot after the Falcons season comes to a end. I agree with the solder but I'm just going at it ghetto first to see if it works.

 

[Mounce]

Lol alright, just make sure you go back and do it right in the end. Also, if you use some kind of crimp connectors, pull on the wires, don't want any of them coming loose and shorting out, make sure they're tight.

 

[Eric04]

Thank Mounce. If the weather is ok tomorrow I'll give it a shot after the Falcons season comes to a end. I agree with the solder but I'm just going at it ghetto first to see if it works.

As someone who's had to go at things ghetto style from time to time due to lack of funds, I hear you. I owned an 88 Dodge pickup until last year which developed several electrical problems, mostly due to age/corrosion. It's time consuming and not much fun chasing down ghosts but keep at it and fight the urge to rush your work. Good luck!

 

[CollectorThis]

So... I would like to say I'm sorry. But I did not swap that harness. I popped the hood to do it today and out the corner of my eye I found this thing unplugged and tucked behind the radiator area. If you follow the wires from the fuse box harness I was going to replace the beginning of this comes from those wires. It's by the battery and headlight area. I just spent a hour looking at moosemans diagrams but I don't understand it. Anyone know where this plugs into?

 

[CollectorThis]

So... I would like to say I'm sorry. But I did not swap that harness. I popped the hood to do it today and out the corner of my eye I found this thing unplugged and tucked behind the radiator area. If you follow the wires from the fuse box harness I was going to replace the beginning of this comes from those wires. It's by the battery and headlight area. I just spent a hour looking at moosemans diagrams but I don't understand it. Anyone know where this plugs into?

 

[CollectorThis]

Sorry for the second pic. I guess that won't help much.

 

[coolasice]

C118 Forward Lamp Harness to Cooling Fan Tether Harness...

 

[Texan]

Coolasice, I think you are correct for the 2008 I6, but this may be his fan
connection on a 2004 I6.

 

[CollectorThis]

C118 Forward Lamp Harness to Cooling Fan Tether Harness...


not used on the 4.2l

A+ for effor man. Thanks

Coolasice, I think you are correct for the 2008 I6, but this may be his fan
connection on a 2004 I6.

Thank you. Do you know if this would prevent it from starting?

 

[Texan]

I just looked at mine and do believe it to be the cooling fan connector, assuming that
you still have a computer controlled fan. I do not think that it would keep the engine
from starting. Do you have a volt meter (DMM) and or a test light that you could use
to do some testing?

 

[CollectorThis]

" I do not think that it would keep the engine
from starting"

When I found this I thought yippie problem solved. Yes I do have a volt meter and a test light.

 

[Texan]

This thread is quite long. So, lets start over. Will the starter turn the engine over?
If it does, are the spark plugs firing?

 

[coolasice]

Coolasice, I think you are correct for the 2008 I6, but this may be his fan
connection on a 2004 I6.

Ah yes my bad, is used on those older ones, not present on 08-09

 

[CollectorThis]

When I jump the starter from the fuse box relay the engine will turn over but it does not start up. I'm not sure if they are firing

 

[Texan]

If you can get a can of starter fluid (spray can) and spray it into the throttle body while
cranking with the key on, and it try's to start and/or run, you will know if it has fire. My require
a helper to do this.

Edie: did you reconnect the cooling fan?

 

[coolasice]

When I jump the starter from the fuse box relay the engine will turn over but it does not start up. I'm not sure if they are firing

Is this with key on?

 

[CollectorThis]

If you can get a can of starter fluid (spray can) and spray it into the throttle body while
cranking with the key on, and it try's to start and/or run, you will know if it has fire. My require
a helper to do this.

Edie: did you reconnect the cooling fan?

I did try this a while back with no luck. I have not reconnected the fan yet. It's 14 degrees out there with 20 mph wind gust.

 

[CollectorThis]

Is this with key on?

Yes the key was on.

 

[CollectorThis]

I just want to add that I've plugged up 2 code readers and they could not connect. I put a test light on the port and it had power.

 

[Texan]

I looked back at post #58 about the transmission shifter, and the underline of the position
on the instrument panel. Assume you reconnected the shifter. If the code reader will not
connect with the computer with the key on, it makes me wonder if the PCM is getting power?
I do not have a wiring diagram handy, but check for power to it. I am going to be off-line for
a few days because of business, but will try to check back in when I can. Do you have the
shop manuals that you can download from Mooseman on this site?

 

[CollectorThis]

How can I check for power to the PCM? I do not have the shop manuals but I can do that now. Thanks

 

[CollectorThis]

I'm done with this clunker. For some reason I'm missing the part that's circled. I can't deal with this thing any longer. Thanks for the help guys and I'm sorry that this thread will never have a answer. I'm selling this pos. Thanks to all who took time from their life to try and help a complete idiot.

 

[Eric04]

Used vehicles are always a gamble and you knew this one was especially so. You're not an idiot, you just rolled the dice and came up craps. Recoup what you can out of that hog and don't sweat it.

 

[SmokeyMcBlazer]

Damn, I was pulling for you bro.

 

[CollectorThis]

Used vehicles are always a gamble and you knew this one was especially so. You're not an idiot, you just rolled the dice and came up craps. Recoup what you can out of that hog and don't sweat it.

Thanks man for some reason it felt real good to read that. I'm going to get what I can and spend a few hundred bucks to get the greatest gift I've ever got on the road again. My Grandfathers 1971 C-10. There's not a lot of electronic bull chit in it. I put a new engine in it 6 years ago and only put 10k miles on it. I don't know why I let it rot. But Old Yeller is coming back to life!!!

Damn, I was pulling for you bro.

As was most of GMT Nation. Thanks for the support. I will see if the buyer will be nice enough to let me know what the problem was once / if they figure it out.

 

[Eric04]

Love those old trucks. Don't see many of them here thanks to road salt. When you get that puppy rolling you should toss a pic or two up.

 

[SmokeyMcBlazer]

I'm going to get what I can and spend a few hundred bucks to get the greatest gift I've ever got on the road again. My Grandfathers 1971 C-10. There's not a lot of electronic bull chit in it. I put a new engine in it 6 years ago and only put 10k miles on it. I don't know why I let it rot. But Old Yeller is coming back to life!!!

Well, there's room for all kinds of GM Trucks here on the Nation. Bring lots of pics....

 

[Mounce]

I will see if the buyer will be nice enough to let me know what the problem was once / if they figure it out.

Tell the buyer about us. Give them the Web address and tell them to come here and we will help them.

No problem with running out of patience for it and I too will say that you're not an idiot. Sometimes there's only so much of something that you can handle before you've gotta throw in the towel.

Also, hopefully you'll still come around. There's a few of us here (myself included) that'll drool over pics of your old truck. I'd love for you to start a build thread and post your progress and pics of it in there.

 

[CollectorThis]

Love those old trucks. Don't see many of them here thanks to road salt. When you get that puppy rolling you should toss a pic or two up.

I will post a few pics for sure. It's a rust bucket but I'm bout sure all it needs is tires and a battery. Plust the simple tune up. I just parked it because of $4 gas. But with gas at $1.99 now is a better time then ever.

Well, there's room for all kinds of GM Trucks here on the Nation. Bring lots of pics....

I will post just a few. It's nothing to brag about for now.

Tell the buyer about us. Give them the Web address and tell them to come here and we will help them.

No problem with running out of patience for it and I too will say that you're not an idiot. Sometimes there's only so much of something that you can handle before you've gotta throw in the towel.

Also, hopefully you'll still come around. There's a few of us here (myself included) that'll drool over pics of your old truck. I'd love for you to start a build thread and post your progress and pics of it in there.

I will tell them about you guys for sure. I might start a thread but the little bit I get for the TB won't be enough to build that show truck I want it to be some day.

 

[Mounce]

I know what you mean, I've got a 65 GMC stepside that I'm wanting to fix up. Definitely gonna be a big black hole of a money pit but it'll be worth it in the end. It'll probably cost as much as a 09 TB with 25,000 miles by the time I'm done lol.

 

[Texan]

Those old Chevy PU's are hard to beat. If I was younger, I would find one to restore.
I am back on line, was out of town for a few days. I think you should fix your C10
and drive it, while having time to sort out the TB. I look at it as a challenge. Find a
Pick a Part place to get the missing parts.