Wandering steering

cretecrawler

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2006 envoy Denali 5.3 142,000. the truck has developed a case of wandering when driving and braking. It doesn't seem to stick to one side or the other. Feels like the front end is just all over the road. Any suggestions to start looking at?? I understand that this platform seems to eat sway bar bushings and end links.....
 

Mooseman

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A full inspection of the front end and an alignment. The Saab was like that, especially when braking, and it turned out to be the lower A-arm bushings on one side were totally shot.
 

HARDTRAILZ

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Ball joints
Hubs
Tie Rods

Be my first things to look at
 

TollKeeper

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HARDTRAILZ

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It will drive straight with the sway bars deleted. Mine does it every time i drive it. The rear is removed and the front is unhooked and tied up out of the way.
 

BrianF

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Mine started doing this around 130,000km. I suspected outer tie rods and was right. I should have been on this way faster, while I was pricing out new ones and researching R&R, one of them completely failed. Had my family in the vehicle and hit the ditch. Thankfully I was going slow and about to perform a U turn on a gravel road. Scared the sht out of the kids. Never again. Some problems and parts can wait, others cannot.
 
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cretecrawler

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Mine started doing this around 130,000km. I suspected outer tie rods and was right. I should have been on this way faster, while I was pricing out new ones and researching R&R, one of them completely failed. Had my family in the vehicle and hit the ditch. Thankfully I was going slow and about to perform a U turn on a gravel road. Scared the sht out of the kids. Never again. Some problems and parts can wait, others cannot.
you are correct sir, found the driver's side outer tie rod end to be dry and knocking around. The other item I found interesting is the driver's side upper control arm rear mounting bolt was several turns loose …....
 

Traz

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The control arm bolt backed itself out that much?
or do you have any jealous exs that want you taken out?
 

Traz

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Lol. wow that seems like a lot for it to just back out. What did you end up doing?
 
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cretecrawler

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Ok so the end links have been in for almost 5 months. I have had to re-tighten the links twice then re-tightened with blue thread locker and the again re-tightened with blue thread locker and double nutted it. Arggggggh it is making noise again, wondering if the mounted hole is elongated now and giving it room to flop up and down? Has any one tried welding a support washer to reinforce it.
 

xavierny25

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Ok so the end links have been in for almost 5 months. I have had to re-tighten the links twice then re-tightened with blue thread locker and the again re-tightened with blue thread locker and double nutted it. Arggggggh it is making noise again, wondering if the mounted hole is elongated now and giving it room to flop up and down? Has any one tried welding a support washer to reinforce it.
@Mooseman had to weld one in on one of his trucks. He should swing through with the details.
 

Mooseman

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You rang? :biggrin:

Yep, I had that in the 02, both on the A-arm bracket and also the bar itself. Welded washers and used RED Loctite, torqued with the breaker bar. Also need a washer on the backside as the small hex or stud would dig into the bracket or bar. That's why the original OEMs had a washer.
 

JerryIrons

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What kind of welder are you using for that type of work. I think I need a welder in my arsenal of tools now :smile: I have an oxy torch but I suspect you are using something a little more user friendly so to speak.
 

Mooseman

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I used my old tombstone stick welder since it is heavy gauge steel.
 

Mooseman

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IIRC, I picked up some hardened ones from a fastener supply.
 

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