"The EVIL Eye...."

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Since the majority of our GMT Nation Members are not “Older Than Dirt...” they can skip reading this thread entirely… but for anyone past the age of 50… this one might interest you in a very significant manner:

Two months ago… I decided to venture out to a local Target Optical Center and have my usual 3-5 year check-up trying to spy any signs of Diabetic Retinopathy which can lead to complete blindness. After looking into a goofy machine that was a PPITA (that’s a Pure Pain In The Ass) to use and obtaining a perfunctory look-see from the Optometrist… She gave me the ostensible good news that my Type II Diabetes was still being well controlled… but that I’d have to get a fistful of different kinds of prescription glasses that involves the expected “Wallet Rape”. I thought… ‘So be it’. I got the lens prescriptions filled and the new frames and went off on my weary way. The one thing she had mentioned in passing was, “Oh, by the way… The lens in your left eye is a ‘Little Yellow’ ...so in the future, you might want to get tested for Glaucoma.”

Time passes… about two months worth almost to the day and in reflection, I must say that from the moment I walked out of the Target place… something was just not quite right about my vision. But having seen an “Expert”, I let it slide and just chalked it up to the Vagaries of Old Age. Trust me… you will have to learn to accept certain things later in your lives that you take for granted as always working perfectly when you’re young. But eventually, time and the tides will dissipate that perfection as your ‘human platform’ ages and wears out. And soon after … bad things may begin to happen that will elude your normal observation and detection abilities.

Two days ago, I was trying to catch up here in the wee morning hours and no matter what I did to clear my vision… no matter where I looked with my right eye closed… a persistent, moving wave propagated along the edges of anything I viewed with horizontal straight lines. It is something akin to watching a series of Atlantic Ocean waves slowly making a rolling approach at Daytona Beach during low tide. I thought… “NOW... WTF?” This phenomena, coupled with persistent double vision was Scaring the Hell out of me and was very concerning.

The other weird visual artifact I noticed was that while typing even simple expressions, most of what was appearing on the screen looked like absolute Gibberish (no … NOT my usual Gibberish)… it was like my entire focal plane had shifted off several keys and what I was looking at on the keyboard … was NOT what my fingers were pressing and showing on screen. So that was the second “WTF… Why does everything I type look like it was done on a WWII era German Enigma Machine?” and that was the final straw that prompted me to take immediate action.

I called the local “St. Michael’s Eye & Laser Institute” in Largo, Florida and after setting my expectations at the lowest possible level, I was surprised to hear the kid on the phone say, “Sure… We can see you this afternoon… Can you be here at 2:30 PM?” I replied, “I’m half-way to your office… now.” The follow on skips all the in-between scenes that were very pleasant for a New Patient exposed to a myriad number of tests and specialty machines you would never imagine them having and now it comes to the point where I tell the Ophthalmologist, “You know this is weird… but I JUST had my eyes examined at Target Optical about two months ago.”

The man spun slowly around on his stool and after sliding closer to gaze with a squinted, ‘jaundiced eye’… he eye-balled me closely and asked, “Did they mention anything about you having Cataracts in Both Eyes?” I said “Nope.” He continued to probe the other more serious issues of the “wavy lines” by asking, “Did they tell you that you have a tear in the membrane under your Retina in the Left Eye that has allowed the Vitreous Humor Jelly Center to pour into the opening and fill up that space ...lifting the Retina off the back side of eyeball?” I said, “Nope...”

He replied, “I’m sending you to our Retina Expert right away… tomorrow morning, I mean. You will need to have Cataract Surgery before we can try and repair that membrane tear and snip out that invading material that is acting like a basket of loose socks has been stuffed under a throw rug; hence causing the Retina to become wrinkled and shifting up and down to produce that “wavy line” effect in your vision.” I said, “Will Do, Doctor… and I cannot Thank You enough for seeing me on such short notice. He smiled and said, “No Problem… Now... if I can just get my wife to stop yelling at me for ruining our dinner tonight...” When I left a few minutes later… the office had already closed up and so I discovered that he really had inconvenienced himself by staying quite late to deal with my situation. You just cannot ask to get better help under dire circumstances than that.

The Moral of The Story is THIS:

If you are a Mature Man or Woman… Leave the Target and other similar Basic Eye Glass Purchasing places to the younger generation(s)… and seek out the help of the REAL Vision Professionals with all of their modern equipment necessary to do a proper and revealing diagnosis. And so finally to quote Jake from The Blues Brothers, “I have SEEN THE LIGHT!” about doing all of this with Proper Eye Care Specialists.
 
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jfkmk

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I've had glaucoma since my mid-20's, so I've almost always been to an opthamologist. Over 50 or bog, I wouldn't trust my eyes to a Target, Walmart or other highway eye place.
 

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hope they are able to fix your problems.
thanks for posting. my wife works for a professional practice that would have done the same thing (stayed later than closing) for a person. also it's a reminder to get my eyes checked again, it's prob. been 3 years since my last exam.
 

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Well my wife has been saying for the past month that we are due our annual eye check ups. So I'll make them as soon as I stop typing. My grandfather had glaucoma for about 35 years, but with his eye drops he said it had stayed "about the same" and he lived to 104. Even without asking my doctor he checks the fluid pressure which makes me feel better knowing the glaucoma runs in the family. And like your eye doctor mine would be working late to make sure his patients are best cared for. It is much appreciated too.
 

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These Folks are #1 on The Runway... I saw the Retina Specialist an hour ago and he scheduled me for the first Cataract Removal Surgery on July 6th... so they are not messing around and I am very happy about that. I like the idea that they are all business... and no Monkey Business in trying to solve the problems ASAP.
 

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As a type 2 diabetic myself I was told in my early '30s not to go to those places anymore but to see an optometrist. I'm almost 54 and my eyes have been just fine save for one burst blood vessel that healed itself. But good you shared your experience because good eyesight is really important.

Hope you get it all worked out.
 

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I had cataract surgery done this time last year. I had a gradual decline in vision. I mostly noticed it at night or when working in low light. I always had an LED light close by for the most basic things. It was difficult to get enough contrast in low light to see clearly. My surgery was great. Only a few minutes and I could see better the next morning when they checked my eyes.

I "upgraded" the lens that they were going to provide under our health system to a better lens that was clearer. The upgrade cost me 500 bucks, my only expense.

No regrets.
 

HARDTRAILZ

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Was actually just talking with the wife about getting eyes checked and will definitely see a pro. Good Luck with the Surgery!
 

Mooseman

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Let me just say this... Would you trust your eyes to Walmart?

And I'm also overdue for an exam.
 

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Let me just say this... Would you trust your eyes to Walmart?

And I'm also overdue for an exam.

Walmart's eye centers are actually independent of Walmart... and yes I'd trust mine... I know the Dr at my Walmart he's a board certified ophthalmologist for over 30yrs... the optician is also a friend.. my wife worked at this store for 4 years..good ppl
 

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Well… after three months (and four consecutive eye operations)… things have settled down enough around here to allow me the chance to finish this post with an update on what happened...what was done… and why all of this work was necessary. Because so many viewing members expressed their interest and concerns, I’ll be as precise about what went on with what essentially amounted to a “complete overhaul” of my eyes...inside and out and provide some “in-sights” about these matters that came with some very surprising results. I must mention that since these actions involve multiple physical and specialty Laser Surgeries that all had their own set of risks and that the results others may encounter might turn out for the better ...or the worse, so a few caveats are worth mentioning here:

(1) All Eye Surgeries present with risks to patients that may include a complete loss of vision in either one or both eyes for any number of medical reasons. For the most part… being thoroughly tested and screened prior to ‘going under the knife’ by competent eye surgeons will make perfect sense. These risks might seem very low or minuscule… but with only one pair of eyes in your coconut… taking no chances and doing everything possible as a very compliant patient will help to provide you with a better outcome before… during… and after any and all surgeries.

(2) Don’t expect to get all the work done at the same time. The logical progression is to have the eye that has the worst vision corrected first… and after a reasonable time to heal afterwards… if the results are satisfactory and the patient's health and recovery are not compromised due to eye infections or post-operative complications… then working on the other eye can follow on.

(3) Make absolutely certain to own up to any physical or medical maladies you have in your medical history … even if the problems seem to be completely unrelated to your vision. Many Diabetics will not realize that their vision is at serious risk if their illness is not being medically managed with Diet, Medicine and Exercise and may have reached a critical state in which they are at greater risk for having eye operations. Being properly examined is the only way to find out for certain.

(4) For elderly patients… Medicare will cover 80% of their costs for major eye surgery and with a Medicare Supplemental Plan… the out of pocket expenses should be very reasonable. However… if the patient opts to upgrade their IOL (Intra Ocular Lenses) that will be required during any Cataract Surgeries… any choices beyond the single focus standard lenses will NOT be covered and that includes the costs for Anesthesia as well. Asking as many questions as possible before choosing the upgrades during the pre-surgery interview will help clear up any discrepancies.

(5) Regardless of the choice of lenses involved… most patients will still require ‘Reading Glasses’ after their surgeries… and a simple or multi-focus pair that has 1.5X power and run anywhere from $10 to $30 on average will do the trick.

(6) Don’t set your expectations unreasonably high about the outcomes of any of these surgeries. If your eye surgeons are highly competent, you will not be the least bit unhappy after several weeks of healing time. Also the fact is that your brain will be rewiring itself by sort of performing a “Visual CASE Re-Learn” inside of your coconut while getting used to the greater amount of light entering the eye and focusing in ways that are unexpected. This may take some getting used to for some time afterwards.

Okay… with all of that said… here is what I went through to finally be able to “See Better”:

(1) Left Eye Cataract Surgery with insertion-positioning of a custom AcroSof IOL ***($1,800.00)

(2) Femto-Laser Surgery under anesthesia to permanently correct Astigmatism of Left Eye Cornea

*** Both surgeries to the Left Eye were elective and NOT covered by Medicare or any Supplemental Plan

2 weeks Healing Time

(3) Right Eye Cataract Surgery with insertion-positioning of a custom AcroSof IOL ***($1,800.00)

(4) Femto-Laser Surgery under anesthesia to permanently correct Astigmatism of Right Eye Cornea

*** Both surgeries to the Right Eye were elective and NOT covered by Medicare or any Supplemental Plan

3 weeks Healing Time

(1) Left Eye “Bleph” Plastic Surgery to Upper Eye Lid to correct excessive ‘hooding’ of vision.

2 weeks Healing Time

(2) Right Eye “Bleph” Plastic Surgery to Upper Eye Lid to correct excessive ‘hooding’ of vision.

2 weeks HEALING Tine

Within this three month period … my eyes have been adjusting to all these surgeries and the improvements. Most immediately afterwards, the corneas healed exponentially fast! With the removal of the old, yellowed cataract lenses and the insertion of the AcroSof lenses, now I can see extremely well for driving distances AND see the dashboard gauges clearly as well, without having to swap around glasses. It took me a while to find a pair of of Reading Glasses that suited my needs but the Foster Grant 1.5X sold at Walgreen’s for $30.00 finally did the job. The funny thing is… now I have to remember to take my “Reading Cheaters” OFF so I can actually SEE better! LOL

Youtube offers videos showing many cataract surgeries being done with mechanical set ups and Diamond Blade Knives to accomplish what the Femto-Laser does remotely by peering into the proper depth and cutting up the old lenses into small sections to assist in removing the cataracts by vacuuming through a special angled slit in the side of the white of the eye (Sclera). Then after cleaning out all of the remnants from inside the sac holding the old lens, the new lenses are folded like a letters being stuffed into envelopes and inserted in place of the old ones. Voilà! When you wake up from the surgery… everything looks completely opaque but will gradually clear up over the period of two weeks. Then the clarity of vision… without the need for corrective glasses will “become crystal clear”.
 
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Glad it seems to have come out good overall. I had checked a couple times to see if you were visiting in the background, but did not want to post in here in case things had gone the other way.

Good info and write-up!
 
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Glad all went well and you're back in your regular form.
 
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I too have an "evil" eye. Glad to hear you had a happy ending, but I certainly wouldn't discount glasses-center-tier eye "professionals":

When I was a lad (which wasn't all that long ago) my elementary school had a free vision screening event one day (I think the same day as a lice check too), but they noticed something was off with my vision.
At the age of 5 I was whisked off to the Johns Hopkins Eye Institute, where I was diagnosed with refractive amblyopia, strabismus, and myopic astigmatism. So badly so, in fact, that I was legally blind, and the doctors believed that even with vision therapy, it was caught too late, and I would be legally blind in the left eye for the rest of my life...
Much of my remaining formative years were spent wearing an eye patch and bifocals. I was teased and called names for it. Patchy the Pirate. Ben Franklin. You name it. Sports were practically impossible with almost no depth perception, so that only fueled the bullying and contributed to my outcast status among my peers.
My social skills stopped developing and I fell behind in school. The teachers thought that I was developmentally challenged.
I had to do an hour of vision therapy daily. I had the special vision test software from the optometrist on the home computer. I failed those tests for years and years.
I went to school every day and was told I was a failure. I came home every day and the computer told me I was a failure. Why didn't I just believe them? I was stupid, legally blind, and I had no friends. Why even try?
But I kept on going. I never took my patch off when I was bullied for it. I never stopped my vision therapy regimen. I never gave up against improbable odds. I still told myself, the doctors at Hopkins are world-class. They HAD to be right...

11 years after the diagnoses, I failed my DMV vision test by ONE POINT on their rating scale. The lady on the other side of the machine added a point so that I passed.
At this point, no longer needing daily therapy, or a patch, or ridiculous glasses, I was able to be switched to contact lenses by my optometrist.
My can-do attitude and work ethic were now set in stone.

Now 17 years after the diagnosis, I have used that drivers license to get me to my 4 different jobs to put me through college, and I am graduating in less than 2 months with my Bachelor of Science in Computer Information Systems (with honors)!

It's hard to say, but I believe being examined by the glasses center lady may have saved my life. I felt so hopeless for so many years knowing my situation, but I was given a slight chance that my vision might improve, and I wasn't about to let it go to waste.
I can't see 3D movies, I have to always head-check when I drive, my hand-eye coordination is pathetic, but I lead a pretty normal life otherwise.
I just have to wonder, what if the glasses center lady didn't come to my school? How long until someone caught it, then misdiagnosed it, or just brushed it off?
Now, thats's not to say the Walmart/Target vision center isn't a joke. But I might be legally blind, immobile, depressed, lazy, and stupid if it weren't for those guys. I truly believe something so small had such a huge impact on my life.


Bonus: At an older age, having vision problems out of nowhere can be an indicator of a stroke. Don't brush it off as your eyes "acting funny". See a doctor.
My grandmother had this happen, brushed it off, then stroked-out two weeks later.
It's serious business.

Your vision/eyes say more about you than you may think.
 
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To me my eye sight is the most important of the body's senses. Without I would not know how beautiful my wife and children look and or enjoy sunsets and movies and drives in the country on a nice fall day.
I too have had eye issues since birth. I was born cross eyed and had surgeries to correct it. But one did not go well and caused my right eyes to be permanently turned outward and with a red scar on the inner white part of it. The issue is not as bad in cold weather cause the muscle contracts more and brings my eye inward. I don't like pictures taken of my as it looks like I am not looking at the camera. The good thing is that the peripheral vision on my right side is better than most people and I joke about being able to see the girls in bikinis and them not knowing. I have learned depth perception, drive fine, go skeet and target shooting and was on my high school rifle drill team. I have had some issues with my eyes but very thankful my works health plan covers eye exams and new glasses every year at an eye doctors office. I am now 52 and know eventually I will need some kind of work done on the peepers. But I dont take my eyes for granted.
 

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Glad you had a good outcome! Thanks for letting us know how things went.
 
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This is an important update to my post-op progress that will explain a bit more about the prior Femto-Laser Surgery and the YAG (Yttrium, Argon, Garnet) Laser Treatment I just had around 07:00 AM today. I did the “worst” eye this morning and will do the other in about a week:

To recap on the work a bit… The Femto-Laser Surgeries were necessary to reshape the Astigmatic (Out of Roundness) that no amount of clear lens replacement after having Cataract Surgery can repair. Essentially, during one of the myriad optical tests and exams they applied… they measure the number and density of the stacked up clear cells of the Cornea because if the cell count is either at or below 1,000 per mm… the Femto -Laser cannot be applied. In my case, because I had not been a smoker since 1973… my cell count was quite high at 2,980 Cells per mm, making me a perfect candidate for the FL Treatment.

The clear covering over the human eye is more complicated than one might imagine… it has a multi-layered, sandwich like arrangement. In between which is a bulky, clear interior called the Stroma. The Femto-laser makes hundreds of Plasma Gas Micro Slices as precision vaporizations inside of the Stroma areas, arranged in such a way as to coax the lens to change its wrong shape from being either peaked sharply or off center or oblong into a perfectly round surface that once repaired and all healed up… allows the newly installed Alcon lenses to focus with the proper Diopter registry along the inside surface of the Retina. It was the use of the Femto-Laser that finally allowed me to see quite clearly at “Dashboard and Driving Distances” without ever needing corrective lenses for those issues again. Here is an exemplar video of how this unique optical hardware and laser correcting software work together:


It is important to mention that after having this corneal modification… eyes repaired like this become much more susceptible to being damaged by flying dirt. Debris and injuries from pokes to the eye… so wearing clear, acrylic wrap-around glasses with a small bi-focal lens at the bottom will be necessary under all engine-tool working and outdoor activities from now on.

I also continue to use daily applications of OcuSoft Hydro-Chlor Spray along with OcuSoft Synthetic Tears to treat both eyes and relieve any dryness for the rest of the day. These can be purchased via Amazon without an Rx and are handy to have in cases where dirt or metal particles get into the eyes and infections need to be prevented while flushing out both eyes of these damaging particles. I also have an RX for a special anti-biotic ointment strictly made for dealing with post op conditions and suture lines on and in the eyes called: TOBRADEX. It is very expensive… but a necessary evil immediately after any eye surgeries.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013M57VZG/?tag=gmtnation-20

…And likewise… even without the surgical issues… if you work in atmospheres laden with dust, foreign object particles and chemicals… keeping these vials cold inside of the refrigerator will treat your eyes royally after being exposed to these trou ble makers all day:

https://www.amazon.com/Refresh-Optive-Lubricant-Single-Use-Containers/dp/B001J4BGMM/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1511281529&sr=8-6&keywords=REFRESH+eye+drops&th=1

In my case… I had a brilliant surgeon doing this work and the outcome was nothing less than “spec”-tacular! He explained at that time that I would experience a gradual change in the color of light (a gradual yellowing occurs) and a change in focus due to the fact that during the Cataract Surgery, in order to extract the Old Cataract Afflicted Lenses… he had to open the top of the “pouches” containing the damaged lenses and after cutting those up into very tiny chunks to be vacuumed clean out, the new Alcon (Blue Ultra-Violet Light Resistant) lenses could be folded, installed and then unfurled inside of those “pouches” to their full extent.

But… when this occurs… occasionally… the “pouches” containing the New IOLs tend to wrinkle up and turn Yellow from behind the lens and this must be attended to if present after all of the previous surgeries have healed and the “eyes...normalize” over a few months time, post-op. Then… the YAG Laser takes center stage ..which takes less than 30 seconds and involves putting in special Numbing and Dilation Drops after which the doctor slips a special lens between both eye lids and while focusing on any errant surfaces and “floaters” obstructing the vision… he ZAAPS! them all quite quickly and smooths out any uneven surfaces at the back and edges of the “pouch”. It is relatively painless and over almost before you can steel yourself for the procedure!.

Afterwards… the nurse applies a special Gel that cools and calms down the surface where the lens was placed and she provides an Rx for an Anti-Inflammatory Eye Drop medication to relieve any persistent discomfort if present… I suffered none for this latest procedure. The Right Eye will be done next week and I’ll update this topic with anything important that happens after both eyes have been… YAG-ed… ;>)
 
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