Paint job..

[Voymom]

Hubby and I plan on getting the voy painted some time next year. But we have sorta been butting heads over this. Hubby would like a different color/scheme, and I just want to keep Phantom black. My reason behind painting him the same color he already is, is that black matches everything. I could change my "style" every day for a month, and always use something different, that will look good. Black and blue, black and green, black and pink lol If we do a custom job we will have to work within those limits and colors, which depending on what it is...could be hard to match accessories to.

As of now we share Phantom as a DD, I'm considering skipping an entire paint job, and just using touch up paint in order to put money into getting the hubby a vehicle, that way if I wanted to paint Phantom all pink, I could and hubby wouldn't have to worry about the looks he would get at work

The reason we need to get a new paint job, is due to a few things. The clear coat is peeling, cracking and in just horrible condition, and in the last 6 months as gotten considerably worse. Some parts (Passenger side front fender) was in a little skiff which lead it to be slightly pulled out, and no paint, no nothing, just bare metal, which I worry about rusting. I have a few scratches that are right down to the sheet metal, albeit small, but is just asking for more rust.

Hubby and I butt heads in a very graceful manner, but I don't want to just "give in" lol but I also want him to feel included in the decision making. I have a hard time sharing Phantom but i'm trying. Anyways, anyone have any advice? What would you do in this situation, what would be your opinion on deciding paint color/scheme.

*Phantom A.K.A Hubby- Don't kill me lol I love you!!!!

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Touch up the bare metal NOW!

Use the money to buy him a vehicle. A decent paint job is not cheap and a cheap paint job will not look any better than now.

 

[Denali n DOO]

A proper complete paint job won't be cheap, especially if you change the color. Save the money and touch up to fix the bad spots. Then give Phantom to Phantom (that just makes sense) and go get yourself a black TBSS, change your user name to SSmom, add pink SS's, bo ties and calipers. Do the muffler delete so those neighbors know you got a new truck! Sounds good doesn't it ?

 

[Voymom]

Touch up the bare metal NOW!

Use the money to buy him a vehicle. A decent paint job is not cheap and a cheap paint job will not look any better than now.

That is definitely do-able. Do I get the paint at the stealership or is there a website I can order from? Also what about clear coat on the unpainted portion? And can I use the touch up paint and clear coat over the clear coat that is already peeling?

 

[Voymom]

A proper complete paint job won't be cheap, especially if you change the color. Save the money and touch up to fix the bad spots. Then give Phantom to Phantom (that just makes sense) and go get yourself a black TBSS, change your user name to SSmom, add pink SS's, bo ties and calipers. Do the muffler delete so those neighbors know you got a new truck! Sounds good doesn't it ?

I don't think that would fly with the hubby lmao! Sounds like a brilliant idea to me, but Phantom(The truck) is a grocery getter/kids taxi...if I got the SS that means Phantom(the hubby) will have to play mommy I'll get an SS one day, but right now I have more important priorities. If I did get and SS I'd paint him all hot pink with black emblems etc...

I don't mind getting touch up paint in the least, but eventually Phantom(The truck) will eventually need a full paint job. I know they aren't cheap, but I do like the idea of getting hubby his own GMT to play with and I won't have to share Phantom very much

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

That is definitely do-able. Do I get the paint at the stealership or is there a website I can order from?

You can order it in spray cans or lil cans. I dont know websites but have seen it and I would imagine it is cheaper than the dealer and they say its same paint.

Also what about clear coat on the unpainted portion?

Why unpainted...paint it.

And can I use the touch up paint and clear coat over the clear coat that is already peeling?

You will definitely need to sand for a decent finish and to get good adhesion.

 

[Denali n DOO]

I don't think that would fly with the hubby lmao! Sounds like a brilliant idea to me, but Phantom(The truck) is a grocery getter/kids taxi...if I got the SS that means Phantom(the hubby) will have to play mommy I'll get an SS one day, but right now I have more important priorities. If I did get and SS I'd paint him all hot pink with black emblems etc...

I don't mind getting touch up paint in the least, but eventually Phantom(The truck) will eventually need a full paint job. I know they aren't cheap, but I do like the idea of getting hubby his own GMT to play with and I won't have to share Phantom very much

Nope, your gonna have all kinds of extra cash around when you quit smoking, so treat yourself on that accomplishment and get yourself an SS. You could still use Phantom to haul kids around n get groceries, I'm sure hubby won't mind driving the SS while you do that stuff. Win win for everyone!!!

 

[Voymom]

You can order it in spray cans or lil cans. I dont know websites but have seen it and I would imagine it is cheaper than the dealer and they say its same paint.

I will do a bit of searching to see what I can find. I know places like auto zone has paint in a can, but not sure of it's quality.

Why unpainted...paint it.

It's the fender that has no paint on it at all. Hubby seems to think we will need a new fender, but I don't know for sure, I will have to get a picture of it. It was pulled out and away from the fender, and it is bare metal from the little fender bender that happened at the stealership, who won't repair it btw.
That's why it is unpainted. I can paint it with the touch up stuff, just want to make sure I can get a decent clear coat over it too.

You will definitely need to sand for a decent finish and to get good adhesion.

I can do that, that won't be a big deal, or at least I can have hubby do it, because I would have a heart attack seeing bare metal on places that are still painted.

 

[Voymom]

Nope, your gonna have all kinds of extra cash around when you quit smoking, so treat yourself on that accomplishment and get yourself an SS. You could still use Phantom to haul kids around n get groceries, I'm sure hubby won't mind driving the SS while you do that stuff. Win win for everyone!!!

If I got an SS....I would have to get one for hubby, I don't mind "trying" to share Phantom(the truck) but an SS....I don't think I would be able too

 

[tbuckalew14]

Wrap it...it's cheaper than a paint job, and you can get any color scheme you want. In a few years if you decide to change the color again, peel it off and get another one.

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Wrap it...it's cheaper than a paint job, and you can get any color scheme you want. In a few years if you decide to change the color again, peel it off and get another one.

Still expensive. I priced mine...wow...

 

[Voymom]

I have to agree, still expensive, and with some, it's more expensive than a custom paint job.

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

As stated in your other thread...

but thought it should be here as well....

Hence why you forgo the paint job and get another vehicle...I cant imagine leaving my wife trapped at home with the kid while at work. I usually have 1-3 vehicles at her disposal, just in case something unfortunate were to happen. I know there are neighbors and family, but the couple minutes difference between jumping in the car or finding a ride can be life or death...

 

[Boog2006]

Plasti dip...

 

[tbuckalew14]

Still expensive. I priced mine...wow...

I have to agree, still expensive, and with some, it's more expensive than a custom paint job.

Can get pricey...it's all in the labor though. If you can get a shop to print, and someone else to install(or attempt it yourself), could save a lot. We just ran material for a 7' tall x 16' wide box truck for under 1500 bucks(they are installing themselves). If we did the install it would have ran them over 4K.

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Can get pricey...it's all in the labor though. If you can get a shop to print, and someone else to install(or attempt it yourself), could save a lot. We just ran material for a 7' tall x 16' wide box truck for under 1500 bucks(they are installing themselves). If we did the install it would have ran them over 4K.

But are they doing just the flat box or the cab? I would do a flat panel in a heartbeat, but the curves of our trucks...whole nother story.

 

[bore_pig]

I would also save the cash and buy a second vehicle. In our household 2 drivers= 3 vehicles, it's safest that way. Don't fret over a new fender, they run about $100 already primed. It's cheaper to buy new than it is to pay someone to repair the dent.

 

[UMEXT]

I would also save the cash and buy a second vehicle. In our household 2 drivers= 3 vehicles, it's safest that way. Don't fret over a new fender, they run about $100 already primed. It's cheaper to buy new than it is to pay someone to repair the dent.

No matter what you do, please leave it black. My last two vehicles were black on charcoal. The chief argument in favor of my current paint job (aside from its harmoniousness with the license plate) is that it looks black at night (and from some angles during the day).

 

[SBUBandit]

I would touch it up for now and get a second vehicle. That will make things easier on you and also reduce the miles going on Phantom. I know whenever we are down to one vehicle, it seems like miles just start piling up way too fast.

As for future paint, I'd go black again. Keep in mind, if you want the paint to look good, you'll pay a ton to change colors, cause that involves door jambs and all that other crap that you only see when something is open. Chances are the paint on phantom is fine in those places, so you save a bunch of money if all they need to prep and paint is the main surfaces. Besides, as much as they are a pain to keep clean (hasn't been a problem for you since you bathe the hell out of phantom) when clean black is hard to beat.

 

[Voymom]

I would touch it up for now and get a second vehicle. That will make things easier on you and also reduce the miles going on Phantom. I know whenever we are down to one vehicle, it seems like miles just start piling up way too fast.

As for future paint, I'd go black again. Keep in mind, if you want the paint to look good, you'll pay a ton to change colors, cause that involves door jambs and all that other crap that you only see when something is open. Chances are the paint on phantom is fine in those places, so you save a bunch of money if all they need to prep and paint is the main surfaces. Besides, as much as they are a pain to keep clean (hasn't been a problem for you since you bathe the hell out of phantom) when clean black is hard to beat.

After talking it over with the hubby we have decided to just do the touch up paint, and get him a vehicle(like my other post stated). It makes perfect sense as I plan on keeping Phantom as long as we can, I can always repaint him sometime in the future.

 

[meerschm]

Get a quart of black rustoleum and use a little 4 inch smooth roller to put it on, will look better than bare metal, and will smooth out the rest of the cracks. the car is nine years old, anyway. wash it good, use some bare metal or rusty metal primer after a quick wipe with some fine sandpaper or steel wool. (to rough it up) this way you will have touch up material beyond imagination.

you can put pink details wherever you like. or hello kitty stickers, or whatever you like. doesn't sound like you keep phantom in car-show shape,
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if you want to do it right, it will be a lot of work, or cost a bunch. sand smooth, prime, sand, color, sand, clear coat.......

Directions for touch up paint and aerosol spray paint use | Touchup Paint Directions | AutomotiveTouchup | 888-710-5192

more info here, and they will be happy to sell you OEM matching paint.

 

[northcreek]

Whataya think ??
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[Voymom]

Get a quart of black rustoleum and use a little 4 inch smooth roller to put it on, will look better than bare metal, and will smooth out the rest of the cracks. the car is nine years old, anyway. wash it good, use some bare metal or rusty metal primer after a quick wipe with some fine sandpaper or steel wool. (to rough it up) this way you will have touch up material beyond imagination.

you can put pink details wherever you like. or hello kitty stickers, or whatever you like. doesn't sound like you keep phantom in car-show shape,
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if you want to do it right, it will be a lot of work, or cost a bunch. sand smooth, prime, sand, color, sand, clear coat.......

Directions for touch up paint and aerosol spray paint use | Touchup Paint Directions | AutomotiveTouchup | 888-710-5192

more info here, and they will be happy to sell you OEM matching paint.

I resent the comment of not keeping Phantom is car-show shape I wash him and put extreme effort in keeping him in tip top shape. And who knows, maybe one day he could be entered in a show of some sort

Thank you for the links to the OEM matching paint! I would rather go that route

 

[smitty5150]

You could always invest a few dollars in a full paint restoration. A good detailer (like me) is more than capable of making everything disappear. Touch up the blemishes, wet sand the entire surface, and polish the living shit out of it.
There is no need to cover the finish when it can be saved. It May cost a few hundred bucks it more, and May take a few days, but nothing is better than saving the original paintjob.

 

[Voymom]

You could always invest a few dollars in a full paint restoration. A good detailer (like me) is more than capable of making everything disappear. Touch up the blemishes, wet sand the entire surface, and polish the living shit out of it.
There is no need to cover the finish when it can be saved. It May cost a few hundred bucks it more, and May take a few days, but nothing is better than saving the original paintjob.

Yes, but your in Jersey...and I don't think I would trust anyone in Iowa to physically touch Phantom with anything, let alone a sander lol Although if I could find someone reliable, and has good references and example pictures, I would be more than willing to do it. As of now, I just need to cover the bare area's to try and keep rust at bay. I will go grab some pictures of the problem area's. I was told I needed a new paint job on the entire truck, but of course a shop will tell me that because it's a lot of freaking money to have a vehicle of this size painted. If we do anything to him that is going to cost us in the hundreds or grands...it will have to be done AFTER we buy hubby his Trailblazer, that will come first....Phantom can be maintained for now, and an entire paint job isn't 100% ruled out, it is just on the back burner for a little while longer while we shop around for a truck for Mat.

Clear coat issues on hood(drivers side)
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Clear coat issues on hood(drivers side)
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Clear coat peeling on drivers side front fender
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Clear coat starting to peel on drivers door
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This is the bare metal from the stealerships screw up
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This is inside the fog light well
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Paint spray..so something has been repainted on the truck or close by the truck(it's white spray)
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[bigytwotone]

Yes, but your in Jersey...and I don't think I would trust anyone in Iowa to physically touch Phantom with anything, let alone a sander lol Although if I could find someone reliable, and has good references and example pictures, I would be more than willing to do it. As of now, I just need to cover the bare area's to try and keep rust at bay. I will go grab some pictures of the problem area's. I was told I needed a new paint job on the entire truck, but of course a shop will tell me that because it's a lot of freaking money to have a vehicle of this size painted. If we do anything to him that is going to cost us in the hundreds or grands...it will have to be done AFTER we buy hubby his Trailblazer, that will come first....Phantom can be maintained for now, and an entire paint job isn't 100% ruled out, it is just on the back burner for a little while longer while we shop around for a truck for Mat.

Clear coat issues on hood(drivers side)
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Clear coat issues on hood(drivers side)
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Clear coat peeling on drivers side front fender
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Clear coat starting to peel on drivers door
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This is the bare metal from the stealerships screw up
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This is inside the fog light well
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Paint spray..so something has been repainted on the truck or close by the truck(it's white spray)
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What have you been doing to you poor truck looks like you have been beating it to the ground lol jk

 

[Voymom]

What have you been doing to you poor truck looks like you have been beating it to the ground lol jk

I bought it like this....

 

[meerschm]

Hey, now, I never meant to insult your careful care of this wonderful ride.

if you want free advice (worth every penny you pay for it at least)

I would cover the bare metal with something, before winter sets in. if it has any surface rust, you could just spray it with a shot of rusty metal converter.

the paint overspray might come off with some goof-off (worth a try) you could even start with a Mr Clean sponge and see if that works. your success probably depends on how clean the surface was when the overspray happened, and what the spray is, (latex housepaint?)

if you are worried about where the clear coat is loose, you probably have to sand to get smooth, then cover with spray base coat, then clear coat. you could try a touch up clear coat over what is there now without the prep, but it will not look as pretty in the end.

http://www.rustoleumautomotive.com/
[video=youtube;L6_4KTv9mAg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6_4KTv9mAg[/video]

sounds like you are looking for something reasonable and responsible, and not to start a surface restoration hobby.

 

[Voymom]

Hey, now, I never meant to insult your careful care of this wonderful ride.

if you want free advice (worth every penny you pay for it at least)

I would cover the bare metal with something, before winter sets in. if it has any surface rust, you could just spray it with a shot of rusty metal converter.

the paint overspray might come off with some goof-off (worth a try) you could even start with a Mr Clean sponge and see if that works. your success probably depends on how clean the surface was when the overspray happened, and what the spray is, (latex housepaint?)

if you are worried about where the clear coat is loose, you probably have to sand to get smooth, then cover with spray base coat, then clear coat. you could try a touch up clear coat over what is there now without the prep, but it will not look as pretty in the end.

http://www.rustoleumautomotive.com/
[video=youtube;L6_4KTv9mAg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6_4KTv9mAg[/video]

sounds like you are looking for something reasonable and responsible, and not to start a surface restoration hobby.

Meerschm, I wasn't really insulted. I did at you. I am looking for something reasonable yet it has to work lol. I seen some clear coat and scratch repair kits at O Rielly's but not sure if they would even work. They weren't bad, they were about $15.00 for the whole kit. I will have to find it online and post it here so you guys can see what I am talking about.

Okay, now that my daughter is napping and my boys are with Grandma, I can get back to this subject.

Here are a few things Mat and I thought about using, but we didn't buy it as we wanted to consult the Nation first.

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[Hypnotoad]

I'd bring it to a detailer. They can work miracles, and I think you'd be surprised.

You might be able to get the over spray off with a claybar.

 

[Jkust]

Looks like the car baked in the sun. Did it come from way down south?

 

[Voymom]

Looks like the car baked in the sun. Did it come from way down south?

Nope....It was built in Oklahoma City, and spent it's time in the northern region(even Canada) before it settled here in Iowa. The damage has gotten worse in the 8 months that we have owned it. I park it in the shade on extremely hot days.

For some reason the clear coat issues are on the drivers side only....no damage or issues on the back or passenger side at all. And there is very very little rust, even under the truck looks pretty good with just minimal surface rust.

 

[Jkust]

Nope....It was built in Oklahoma City, and spent it's time in the northern region(even Canada) before it settled here in Iowa. The damage has gotten worse in the 8 months that we have owned it. I park it in the shade on extremely hot days.

For some reason the clear coat issues are on the drivers side only....no damage or issues on the back or passenger side at all. And there is very very little rust, even under the truck looks pretty good with just minimal surface rust.

My wife's Rainier hood and bumper had the slightest clear coat bubbles at 40,000 miles when we got it. Just a tiny section of early cc failure. You could just tell the oem clear coat would eventually fail when it started spreading. The dealer actually repainted both under warranty then added the 3m clear bra to the newly painted hood which also covers the front portion of the fenders. Point being I just figured the clear was applied poorly for whatever reason. The rainier has spent it's whole life up north. It seems like all the 360's are a crapshoot in some way or another.

 

[northcreek]

Looks like the car baked in the sun. Did it come from way down south?

Was it ever driven through a meteor shower??...just askin'..Mike.

 

[Voymom]

Was it ever driven through a meteor shower??...just askin'..Mike.

That made me giggle!!! And choke on my coffee

I just think someone beat the living hell out of this truck at some point in time....probably the dealership I got it from, but who knows. I have a stinking suspicion that the dealership covered up the clear coat issues with something to make it not look so bad. And now 8 months later, whatever they used might have worn off? I don't know. I mean it sucks, but it really beats having major mechanical issues. I much rather have this issue than an engine/tranny issue. I know it can be fixed...I'm just trying to figure out the cheapest route right now. Depending on mine and hubby's situation, we may have to wait another year or two before we can invest in an actual paint job. He needs a vehicle first off, and we have been shopping around for a house, so it really depends on what our future looks like in the next few years. I can handle a cheap fix that needs to be repeated often, as long as it does it's job, and doesn't look crappy. I know it won't look as good as a new paint job, but I don't want it looking completely stupid or out of place. I would like to do this fix before the wedding, as the truck will be included in the pictures lol

 

[jrSS]

Have maaco paint it. They r cheap.

 

[Voymom]

Have maaco paint it. They r cheap.

Jeff, We don't have a Maaco around here, I have already checked. There is a local guy here called Kustom Kolors, and he is decently priced(2k for entire truck) but I'm not sure of his quality. I heard he is really good, and warranty's his job for 5yrs....so I don't know yet.

 

[meerschm]

I use a duplicolor scratch fix. one for color, one for clear coat.

the brush comes in handy for those bigger than a scratch places.

DupliColor

works ok for me. you end up with some surface changes, but a lot better than leaving it blank.

it does look nicer if you sand and use spray cans, but that can be a lot of work.

based on what I saw, the first step of any real paint job would be to sand down the finish to get something smooth, which will also include any imperfections you add in touch up paint in the mean time.

you can always go back to my roller suggestion. ( but that works better if you never wash your car, except when it is time to repaint!)