Front struts what to buy?

[SnowBlazer]

Hey y'all! When tax season rolls around, I'm going to have new shocks installed as my KYB ones are getting a little chatty. My question here is: what's going to be the easiest and most cost effective way of doing this? Should I get a whole new shock, coil, and mount assembly or just get coil and mount assembly? I'll probably take it by 4 Wheel parts as I don't talk to my buddy who put my lift kit on anymore.
Thanks guys!
Ryan

 

[Capote]

Might as well get all new hardware if you can do-so by finding a deal or something somewhere, that's my opinion

 

[SnowBlazer]

Might as well get all new hardware if you can do-so by finding a deal or something somewhere, that's my opinion

Rock Auto has KYB preassembled for $120 a side iirc.

 

[SnowBlazer]

Guessing these are shitty?

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

So you are taking your lift off?

 

[SnowBlazer]

So you are taking your lift off?

Maybe for a week to dissassemble and re assemble

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Why would you buy pre assembled then? Seems like a total waste. Just buy Bilstein HD struts and be done. Why do you think you need coils?

--Hope your 4WP is better than mine cause here they are worse than a dealership. Lying bastards that overcharge.

 

[6716]

Guessing these are shitty?

They don't get a lot of love, but that's what I put in my stock daily driver/fishing/camping rig.

I mean, the Bilsteins are arguably "better" -- I don't know how much better, but when I was taking input on those The Roadie probably put it best when he said the Monroe assembly is just fine "for my application" which isn't hardcore rock hopping.

I mean, I get out there when I go fishing, but I don't usually ever get completely off road.

I also don't know how/if the lift complicates things to the point that the Monroe is just completely out.

Super simple job with those, though.

 

[littleblazer]

The monroes will be comparable to stock, which imo is on the soft/luxury side. The bilsteins will be more stiff and make it ride more like a truck. I like the HDs because they take out all the bounce but don't make the ride punishing. Some think it's too stiff, I say it's just right. The envoy has sensa tracks and it is softer but not bad. The sierra has bilsteins and 3500 springs and torsion keys and has a comfortable ride. It doesn't have the ride of an empty 2500hd since... it isn't an empty truck. You'll probably find with the lift that the monroes aren't going to be that much better than the worn shocks. Or I could be wrong. If you try it you'll know, but if you get the HDs I can guarantee they'll still be good when you sell it in a few weeks. Or not.

 

[Instrumental]

How about the Moog quick strut on rock auto? I'm very tempted, new spring and mounts etc, for about a hundred bucks each shipped. My only hesitation is I don't know much about Moog shocks.

 

[6716]

How about the Moog quick strut on rock auto? I'm very tempted, new spring and mounts etc, for about a hundred bucks each shipped. My only hesitation is I don't know much about Moog shocks.

The way things go, they are probably made by the same people that make the Monroe, then they just put a different label on it. I do know the Monroes have worked for me.

 

[SnowBlazer]

@HARDTRAILZ whats the part number on the bilsteins?

 

[littleblazer]

@HARDTRAILZ whats the part number on the bilsteins?

24-103336 is what I have.

 

[fletch09]

Guessing these are shitty?

those are the ones i just put on mine. same part #. so far so good.
that is just a hell of a price. mine cost me 122.96/ea (mfg list in IL 169.99) from a family run auto parts store in my town. had i had time to research and compare and find those at that price, i would have bought them.

 

[SnowBlazer]

24-103336 is what I have.

Thanks bud. I'll look into this further.

those are the ones i just put on mine. same part #. so far so good.

How's the ride, like when you hit potholes and such? Right now, it sounds like a bomb went off whenever I hit a pothole.

 

[fletch09]

How's the ride, like when you hit potholes and such? Right now, it sounds like a bomb went off whenever I hit a pothole.

ride has been good so far. no complaints. did you get longer shocks for the rear when you did the lift? w/o longer shocks in the rear you will get full extension on the rear shocks on bumps or potholes and it sound horrible. i had a certain spot at the local bank, whenever i went to thru the drive thru, i would get a horrible clunk in the rear because of a bump in the blacktop. so i finally got longer rear shocks, fixed the problem.

 

[C-ya]

A co-worker has an '09 TB. He had all shocks replaced a couple of years ago and about a month ago he said he felt like he was getting shook out of his truck when he hit a bump. Both of his front cartridges were blown.

 

[SnowBlazer]

@littleblazer is it true that the Bilsteins give 1" of lift over OEM? Thought I saw that somewhere...

 

[littleblazer]

@littleblazer is it true that the Bilsteins give 1" of lift over OEM? Thought I saw that somewhere...

Not that much, at first it did because my springs were decompressed for a day. I sit about a quarter inch higher maybe. The mount for the bolt on the lower front shocks and rears are in a different location... slightly lower. Atleast on mine. Results may vary, it shouldn't effect the rear since they don't effect the rest height of the springs.

 

[SnowBlazer]

Not that much, at first it did because my springs were decompressed for a day. I sit about a quarter inch higher maybe. The mount for the bolt on the lower front shocks and rears are in a different location... slightly lower. Atleast on mine. Results may vary, it shouldn't effect the rear since they don't effect the rest height of the springs.

I hit TXBlazer up for his z71 set up for the rear, still trying to decide on the Monroe or Bilstein.

 

[AzTruckGuy]

So Im going to do a coil/shock change. What are your thoughts on the Elibach kit with Monroe sensa tracs? Ive read reveiwes and they seem a lot better then the belltechs. I am looking more for a comfortable luxury ride versus a stiff truck ride. I wont be doing any 4x4 and all street driving

 

[Gerbil21]

I hit TXBlazer up for his z71 set up for the rear, still trying to decide on the Monroe or Bilstein.

I have a pair of barley used z71 springs $65 plus shipping

 

[SnowBlazer]

I have a pair of barley used z71 springs $65 plus shipping

Do you have the shocks to go with?

 

[Gerbil21]

Do you have the shocks to go with?

No just the springs I was using regular AutoZone tahoe shocks at the time.

Just a sidenote if you didn't already know you will need washers for the lower shock bolts

 

[SnowBlazer]

No just the springs I was using regular AutoZone tahoe shocks at the time.

Just a sidenote if you didn't already know you will need washers for the lower shock bolts

I know, I'll bring the shocks to Ace and toy around when I get them. Do you have the tahoe shocks? I'd like to buy them as a set before I get side tracked by other things.

 

[Gerbil21]

I know, I'll bring the shocks to Ace and toy around when I get them. Do you have the tahoe shocks? I'd like to buy them as a set before I get side tracked by other things.

no i returned them a while ago been running regular trailvoy shocks since

also on a side note are you still interested in the rockauto credit?

 

[djthumper]

I know, I'll bring the shocks to Ace and toy around when I get them. Do you have the tahoe shocks? I'd like to buy them as a set before I get side tracked by other things.

IIRC correctly they are 7/16" body washers with 10 on each shock. I did the write up on ORTB.

 

[BoomersTB]

Does anyone know the part# for the longer rear HD bilstein shocks? I am buying Mark's 3 inch leveling kit, and I have searched but only find the OE shock replacement.

 

[littleblazer]

I think you just use the full sized shock with washers on the mount. Not entirely sure though.

 

[fletch09]

BDS offers extended rear shocks, BDS brand and FOX Brand.
for direct fit for TB and Envoy
http://bds-suspension.com/product-display?tab=chevy/gmc-accessories

 

[SnowBlazer]

IIRC correctly they are 7/16" body washers with 10 on each shock. I did the write up on ORTB.

How much lift can I expect with 4600 Bilstein struts and z71 rear suspension?

 

[djthumper]

From the struts? None. Adding Z71 springs will add 1.25 to 1.5" to the rear.

 

[SnowBlazer]

IIRC correctly they are 7/16" body washers with 10 on each shock. I did the write up on ORTB.

I'd hate to keep quoting you, Larry but I am about to put all this crap on. I tried searching for your write up and am unable to ind it. Care to link it, brother? Thanks!!

 

[djthumper]

I will try to find it, I think I did it inside the search for different rear shocks. Kyle started it and I did some further research and got the Skyjackers and igured out the spacing.

 

[djthumper]

Here is what I have located so far, http://forums.offroadtb.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1747&p=32216&hilit=N8030#p32216

 

[djthumper]

Here are other threads on it too.

http://forums.offroadtb.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5571&p=109860&hilit=N8030#p109860

http://forums.offroadtb.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5657

 

[BoomersTB]

Has anyone done Pic's or a video on how to install Marks leveling kit? I know mark has instructions, but just a few things unclear to me, and yes I have been looking/searching for any I could find. Just wanted to see how someone eles has gone through the process. Thanks for any assistance...
I have also tried looking in OffRoad TB, but still wont give me access. I registered 2 or 3 months ago so not sure if admin is still accepting people?

 

[SnowBlazer]

Has anyone done Pic's or a video on how to install Marks leveling kit? I know mark has instructions, but just a few things unclear to me, and yes I have been looking/searching for any I could find. Just wanted to see how someone eles has gone through the process. Thanks for any assistance...
I have also tried looking in OffRoad TB, but still wont give me access. I registered 2 or 3 months ago so not sure if admin is still accepting people?

I had a difficult time with Mark's instructions since he doesn't enclose an exploded stack up. I also got confused and threw away the wrong washers. I got with @Sparky and he created this bad ass pic yesterday...

 

[djthumper]

Has anyone done Pic's or a video on how to install Marks leveling kit? I know mark has instructions, but just a few things unclear to me, and yes I have been looking/searching for any I could find. Just wanted to see how someone eles has gone through the process. Thanks for any assistance...
I have also tried looking in OffRoad TB, but still wont give me access. I registered 2 or 3 months ago so not sure if admin is still accepting people?

You registered a while ago... You should be able to login now, if not do a password reset. I just fixed your account.

 

[HARDTRAILZ]

Those washers can be the devil.