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Hey. Just wanted to know if the valve valvoline gear oil in the pouches is OK for the rear diff? Have to change my backing plates and emergency brake shoes. The only thing is that I know it's 75w90 and has to be synthetic. Was gonna get the Amsoil but can't afford that stuff.
 
Look around for the companies that sell the proper Gear Oil Weight and Temperature for conditions to function properly inside of the GM Eaton M-Locker G80 "Pumpkins" that specify they have NO Limited Slip Additives.
 
Are you talking about this one?

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It does say it contains LS additive. I found this old thread at BITOG which said this for open differentials:

Generally speaking, some FMs (Friction Modifier), which is the LSD additive, are known to increase the oxidation rate of the oil. If you have that type of FM, and don't need them, your oil life could be somewhat shorter than a non-FM'ed oil. But you would have to know which FM the oil has and that's about impossible. Where I have been able to determine the type (only two cases) the type of FM generally followed the price range. I.E. the better oil had the better FM. The likelihood is that a high quality oil will have the better FM and possibly vice versa.

However, I did find this thread that specifically says to not use FM with the G80:

The Eaton G80 in the GM trucks is a locker, not a limited slip. The G80 in cars is a limited slip with clutches. GM and Eaton do not recommend LImited Slip Additives for the locker.

#PIP4054D: Eaton Locking Differential Chatter Shudder Noise On Turns - (Jul 19, 2010)


Subject: Eaton Locking Differential Chatter Shudder Noise on Turns


Models Equipped With a Locking Rear Differential RPO G80

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This PI was superseded to update model years. Please discard PIP4054C.
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Customers may comment on a chatter or shudder from the rear axle on vehicles equipped with an Eaton locking differential. This condition would be noticed in parking lot maneuvers, turning, or during locking differential engagement and may be more noticeable when the differential is hot. Locking differential clutch chatter may be causing this concern.

Notice: This does not apply to vehicles equipped with RPO QS4 (Quadrasteer) which is part of option package NYS. Quadrasteer vehicles use Dana axles and have a different fluid requirement.

Notice: This PI does not apply to vehicles equipped with a RPO G86 limited slip differential.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If differential clutch chatter is encountered in a vehicle equipped with an Eaton locking differential, flush, drain and refill the differential with new synthetic fluid, use the fluid part number listed in SI for the vehicle currently being worked on. If the condition returns, replace the rear differential clutch plates and refill the differential with new synthetic fluid, use the fluid part number listed in SI for the vehicle currently being worked on. Refer to eSI for clutch plate replacement and set up procedures.

Notice: Eaton locking differentials used in 10.5 rear axles are equipped with steel clutch plates. It is a design characteristic of these steel clutch plates to exhibit more clutch chatter than other models.

Important: Installing any friction modifier causes the clutch pack in the locking differential to slip and miss engagement. A fluid flush can often remove debris that is a contributor to clutch chatter. Adding friction modifier additive can cause a loss of locking differential functionality.

Notice: On Quadrasteer equipped vehicles, simply flush the rear axle and refill with the fluid listed in SI document 793720 under the steerable application.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
 
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Looking at different brands, I'm having a hard time finding any in 75w90 Synthetic that doesn't have any FM or saying that they are compatible with LS differentials, which means it does have FM. I did find these:


This one says it's only for manual transmissions (GL-4):




Be sure to look at the difference between GL-4 and GL-5:

The primary difference between the two specs is the amount of extreme pressure additive package. GL4 has roughly half the EP additive as GL5. GL5 is designed more for hypoid gear interfaces while GL4 is generally designed for manual transmissions.
So GL-5 without any LS/FM additive would be preferred.
 
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Didn't notice any clutches in there the last time I did it. Forget about the type of gear oil I used but I'm pretty sure it was Valvoline with no obvious noise or issues. Hopefully it didn't damage anything. As far as the type of diff I have I couldn't tell you. The glovebox sticker says GU6. Any other number I need to know which type of diff I have?
 
G80
 
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Will the 75w90 Supertech synthetic gear oil work?

The Super Tech Full Synthetic 75W-90 Quart is formulated for multi purpose extreme pressure applications, including conventional differentials, gear boxes, limited slip rear axles, manual transmissions and hypoid gears. Buy online today, or stop by your local Walmart store and pick up your Super Tech Full Synthetic 75W-9.
  • Formulated with 100 percent synthetic base oils
  • Provides superior gear protection
  • Made with premium extreme pressure additives, rust preventatives and antifoam additives
  • Recommended where API GL-5 and MT-1, MACK GO-J, SAE J2360 and MIL-PRF-2105E (PG-2) are specified
 
The Super Tech Full Synthetic 75W-90 Quart is formulated for multi purpose extreme pressure applications, including conventional differentials, gear boxes, limited slip rear axles, manual transmissions and hypoid gears.
This would mean it has the the LS additive. I think you'll be fine, especially if you don't have the G80. Even if you do, maybe they changed the type of friction modifier that it doesn't affect the lockers anymore after that TSB was put out. It's almost impossible to find a gear oil without the FM anymore.
 
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