THIS is a very edifying CNBC Report on THE one very necessary item that REALLY adds to the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) of ALL Electric Vehicles:
TIRES
TIRES
EVs WILL make you "Re-TIRE" MUCH Sooner...
- Thread starter mrrsm
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They are not lying...to a point.
The Pirelli's on my Rivian, thru the Rivian forums, is a great tire, but need replacement inbetween 9k and 25k. They are stupid expensive at $529 a tire! These tires are rated as a 116H XL. I like them OK... They provide great traction on dry pavement, but are nearly useless on the snow, and hydroplane easily on the wet.
However, Michelins tires have all been EV rated for some years now, and the cost of them is a lot more reasonable. The Michelin Defender M/S2 are $335 and are rated as a 115H XL.
The Continental Terrain Contact A/T is NOT rated as a EV tire, are rated as a 115T XL, and are $311.
The Continental Terrain Contact H/T is also not rated as a EV tire, is the tire of choice by the Rivian community, is rated as a 115H XL. These cost $279.
Now comes the weird part... The owners that have switched to the Cont TC H/T are reporting a better/higher efficiency over the stock Pirelli's. No one that has switched to them has had to replace them for wearing out as of yet. One user is getting close, as he has 57k on his Rivian, and 45k of those are on the Continental's... And he is running the A/T model.
I am a Michelin supporter thru and thru. Have had nothing but a great experience with them on my Envoy, who is now on her 3rd set of them. I get about 70-75k out of them.
I am hoping the softer rubber that Michelin uses will provide a better ride on my Rivian.. I should be replacing them by Xmas if Rivian forums mileage use is a indicator.
Because my Rivian is a fat girl... we have to run the tire pressures up around 49-50 psi. Otherwise we end up like the Ford Explorer/Bridgestone fiasco years ago.
The Pirelli's on my Rivian, thru the Rivian forums, is a great tire, but need replacement inbetween 9k and 25k. They are stupid expensive at $529 a tire! These tires are rated as a 116H XL. I like them OK... They provide great traction on dry pavement, but are nearly useless on the snow, and hydroplane easily on the wet.
However, Michelins tires have all been EV rated for some years now, and the cost of them is a lot more reasonable. The Michelin Defender M/S2 are $335 and are rated as a 115H XL.
The Continental Terrain Contact A/T is NOT rated as a EV tire, are rated as a 115T XL, and are $311.
The Continental Terrain Contact H/T is also not rated as a EV tire, is the tire of choice by the Rivian community, is rated as a 115H XL. These cost $279.
Now comes the weird part... The owners that have switched to the Cont TC H/T are reporting a better/higher efficiency over the stock Pirelli's. No one that has switched to them has had to replace them for wearing out as of yet. One user is getting close, as he has 57k on his Rivian, and 45k of those are on the Continental's... And he is running the A/T model.
I am a Michelin supporter thru and thru. Have had nothing but a great experience with them on my Envoy, who is now on her 3rd set of them. I get about 70-75k out of them.
I am hoping the softer rubber that Michelin uses will provide a better ride on my Rivian.. I should be replacing them by Xmas if Rivian forums mileage use is a indicator.
Because my Rivian is a fat girl... we have to run the tire pressures up around 49-50 psi. Otherwise we end up like the Ford Explorer/Bridgestone fiasco years ago.
Which makes me wonder if the tire mfg's are trying to cash in on the EV gravy train. And from your accounts, the EV tires seem to perform poorly in everything except perfect conditions.
Pirelli paid for the opportunity to establish their tires as OEM, no doubt! Brand deals like that are classic high tech industry practice (e.g. for years Dell would only use Intel chips which Intel subsidized/incentivized with marketing funds).
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Tires are tires.
Electric VS Gas? ROFLMFAO That's some high grade manure right there.
Softer compounds provide more dry traction but wear faster. That's a constant. Wet traction depends a lot more on the tread pattern.
I'm with @TollKeeper on the Michilen Defenders. For quality and cost they are the best but ..... the ride is a bit stiff and noisy.
Last time around (11/22) we chose the Goodyear Assurance for the car. We know they won't last as long but they provide a softer, quieter ride. We are willing to pay more in the long run for that and we are satisfied with them so far.
Electric VS Gas? ROFLMFAO That's some high grade manure right there.
Softer compounds provide more dry traction but wear faster. That's a constant. Wet traction depends a lot more on the tread pattern.
I'm with @TollKeeper on the Michilen Defenders. For quality and cost they are the best but ..... the ride is a bit stiff and noisy.
Last time around (11/22) we chose the Goodyear Assurance for the car. We know they won't last as long but they provide a softer, quieter ride. We are willing to pay more in the long run for that and we are satisfied with them so far.