stormsurge
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- Jan 29, 2012
- 386
FEEDBACK Trailvoy Shenanigans!
- Thread starter BINGA
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ksimm92
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- Apr 28, 2012
- 166
awhile ago I was thinking about joining trailvoy as I visited as a guest frequently, I remember seeing the "no longer with us" under roadie's posts. I ended up searching something on google (I can't remember what now
) but then I stumbled on GMT Nation. Long story short... I JOINED GMT NATION!! 
) but then I stumbled on GMT Nation. Long story short... I JOINED GMT NATION!! 
Yah, they saw members getting suspicious after they posted the truth as my status (and about 100 other former members): "Vertical Scope banned their sorry asses after they showed their disloyalty by starting their own site instead of making us rich by doing free volunteer work while we rake in the ad money."ksimm92 said:
I think a few folks back there think I rolled off a mountain trail and died.
I was thinking that Bill pushed Bill down the stairs. (referring to DucatiSS's old signature over there)ksimm92 said:I'm sure quite a few folks are thinking something along that line
Mooseman
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I saw this on July 5th when I went over researching for something and thought to myself...WTF???
Has VS actually showed an interest? Or were they just checking in because there aren't any mods really running the place?
Edit: Just checked and found this post from a poor lost soul, no answer for over a month until the "Super administrator" stepped in.
Has VS actually showed an interest? Or were they just checking in because there aren't any mods really running the place?
Edit: Just checked and found this post from a poor lost soul, no answer for over a month until the "Super administrator" stepped in.
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Adrian (I think that's his name - Stef would know for sure tho) has many other sites - somewhere around 80 - to "admin" on that I'm sure are more populated than TV is now, so I'm thinking that it's quite low on his priority list... they still have their anti-GMTN filter running wild, so that takes care of most of his work...
I chalk it up to his weekly troll / visit...
I chalk it up to his weekly troll / visit...
steven76
Member
- Mar 24, 2012
- 54
I watched another member from this site post and get banned from Trailvoy yesterday. The below posting was gone within 5 minutes of it being posted.
I don't want to get banned from that site, so I just occasionally directly emailed any users who divulge their actual email address. Only doing this since I'm on vacation this month and experiencing some boredom.
One of my best talents is passive-agressive.
Glad to know that I'm responsible for at least one of the nine new registrations on here yesterday.
I don't want to get banned from that site, so I just occasionally directly emailed any users who divulge their actual email address. Only doing this since I'm on vacation this month and experiencing some boredom.
One of my best talents is passive-agressive.
Glad to know that I'm responsible for at least one of the nine new registrations on here yesterday.
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RIP, gutsy ex-member.steven76 said:
Vertical Scope still feels threatened, and unwilling to let members get qualified help with their problems. What a disservice to the community they claim to care about. Liars. All about the ad dollars. They buy sites and don't care ANYTHING about the vehicle platform. Just the eyeballs they're buying.
In the good old days for 90% of trailvoy's existence, email addresses were part of most member's profiles. Since that was a method of sending invitations that Vertical Scope couldn't control, they felt it necessary to shut off that feature. Since they DON'T CARE if people try to make friendships outside trailvoy and form a community, it's no loss to them. You used to be able to send PMs to more than one member at a time - they also killed that feature off as well.
Sooner or later they will turn off PM's altogether and then the pretense will be totally over. It's all about the ad dollars. Not about answering questions. Not about meets. Not about stickers. Not about friendships. Not about the PEOPLE.
They still sneak in and read PMs, which is now against the data privacy laws in Europe. They need to be very careful whose accounts they read the PMs of. I guess "Private" means nothing when it comes to suppressing the truth and keeping their members ignorant of how the site's deteriorated without engaged and active members and volunteer staff.
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Well, I was wonder WTF was going on at TV... The help seemed to disappear there lately.. Unless you were looking for something that someone had already asked, you were kinda on your own... Thanks to a PM from a fellow GMTnation member, I am now in the right place.... Owning the oddball Envoy XUV, I have learned we need to stick together as not a ton of people have the same issues we have (my stupid swing touch pad is broke... if you have no idea what I am talking about, be thankful...).
SO, here I am, whether you all like it or not!
Paul
SO, here I am, whether you all like it or not!
Paul
Wooluf1952
Member
Delor said:
WelcomeIn case you haven't heard:
http://gmtnation.com/f5/welcome-gmtnation-com-heres-story-226/
Hehe. How LAME is that?MAY03LT said:There are also "secret" moderators over there who have the ability to delete posts and ban members. How cool is that?!?!
Mods that gotta sneak around because if the REAL GMT360 community knew they were whacking members over there for fun and frolic they would be shunned so fast their heads would spin. Only a junior high school mentality would enjoy that sort of secret power, like punching puppies when nobody's looking.
Short Bus
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- Dec 2, 2011
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Short Bus
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- Dec 2, 2011
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jrSS said:
Like I give a flying
Here it is, so people here can see it after they take it down
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Irishboy02
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- Apr 1, 2012
- 222
Is it just me or on the bottom of that page does it say "trailvoy.com" as a supporting site....for Trailvoy.com?
kardain said:
Hey thats me in the middle post!
You gotta love how the few `senior` members left there act as though they have no idea as to why things happened as they have...
This aft I`m in the midst of trying to explain to SSILICON why the various OP questions can`t and won`t get answered... what a tool... but it`s fun...
This aft I`m in the midst of trying to explain to SSILICON why the various OP questions can`t and won`t get answered... what a tool... but it`s fun...
CdnGMan said:You gotta love how the few `senior` members left there act as though they have no idea as to why things happened as they have...
This aft I`m in the midst of trying to explain to SSILICON why the various OP questions can`t and won`t get answered... what a tool... but it`s fun...
Is it me or did he make it sound like you were somehow stopping folks from answering questions? I guess it's easier to cry about what you're posting then it is to pick up a shop manual and learn how the temp gauge works.
MAY03LT said:
That's EXACTLY how he was making it sound!
The funny part was that he was asking why I wouldn't share the obvious answer (as in if you want a logical answer / response, ya gotta join tha Nation!) on the forum and not get them to contact me via email.
I made sure to note that the "private messages" aren't private anymore. LMAO!!
What a tool!
That's what this list is for...CdnGMan said:Which begs the question... who are you on here Pete???
http://gmtnation.com/f16/username-changes-41/#post261
Sparky said:
I don't have a beef with him either as I wouldn't know him if I were to run over him twice... and yeah, considering everything that's gone on regarding the OS, his choice to remain is somewhat questionable, but, as you say, it's his choice...
Sparky said:
I think it boils down to the appearance of supporting what VS has done (or not done) to the "community" over there... his active participation / helping of people over there simply re-enforces that IMO... the fact that VS is still afraid of GMTN and what it represents speaks volumes...
Now, people may say that "well GMan is still over there, so I guess he still supports VS..."
If that's the case, then those people would be dead wrong... yes, I do still have an account over there, but I use it to redirect the noobs over here - where they'll find the help & info that they seek - which was the reason why that SSilicon tool got his knickers in a bunch to start with...
CdnGMan said:
Exactly. There were several reasons. One was when they stopped Tapatalk and wanted everyone to buy/use the autoguide app instead. IMO they are an anti-enthusiast business. They don't give a squatch about us or our trucks, only selling adspace for profit. Anyone who supports that, which includes contributing to that site by answering questions, reporting posts, or being a secret moderator, is pretty much saying that they are cool with that. I am not cool with them being cool with that. It's not personal by any means.
Another example happened after we split. They picked up Scosche as a supporting vendor. Clearly VS didn't read the audio threads to see that the scosche adapters are garbage and were not recommended by many of the audio guys. If I stayed there, and posted that the scosche adapters were garbage, I could have received an infraction or possible banning for "insulting" a supporting vendor. The thing is, there is a difference between insulting and posting real life experiences. I've had enough GMs come in on a tow truck because a Scosche adapter pulled down the data bus that I'd be doing the community a disservice by not sharing my experience with them. So of course I'm not going to recommend them. But because Scosche paid to be a vendor, I'd have to keep quiet, or face the consequences. Ugh.
Nah man you're good. Just don't go recommending Scosche!!!!
Ok, so over the last week or so, I've "instructed" some noobs on the OS on where to come to get the service manuals and the like... and today I get this from the "Admin"...
So I take the time to respond with the below...
Hey there...
I don't dare suggest to anyone in the open forums where to go if they want the help they seek as that would - I do however make it available that if they want help, they're more than free to contact me OUTSIDE of the forum. I see nothing wrong with giving people direction to the info that they're looking for. But since you've been watching / noticing my posts, you've already realized that there are a number of people who are looking for something that is NOT here...
I'm not about to get into an argument with you regarding this, as it's a no-win situation as far as I'm concerned. My reasons for helping those that want it are simple: I want to give back to the community that's helped me. It's pretty obvious by the lack of responses to the numerous questions posed that people are looking for help - help that's not here anymore for various reasons. I dare suggest that if you were about the community as you claim to be, you'd understand that this isn't a personal thing, but one of trying to ensure that the GMT community has access to the best information - regardless of its location.
I'm sure you're aware that the folks over on GMTN acknowledge the fact that TV is a great place for archival info and actually encourage people to visit. You guys (VS) may want to reciprocate that and realize that GMTN is a great place for current knowledge & info - just based on who is actually answering the numerous questions posed.
It's not always about having the most "views" or "eyes" on your site that makes it great.
I know that you and your 2 mods (who seemed to have disappeared as of late) want the site to return to its former glory, but with everything that's gone on, is that really possible? Take a close look at the "Introductions" and see how many posts go unanswered... it never used to be like that...
And you're right, the choice is mine... and for now, I chose to stay and help those looking for help not available here, find it elsewhere. As an enthusiast, that shouldn't pose a problem for you. It's quite possible that in the near future I'll simply say "screw it" and the noobies and the "wanna-be mods" try to figure out the nuances of the TB / Envoy, but for now I'll do what I can to help the noobs - I was one of them too.
Cheers.
So... how much longer until I've joined that illustrious list too??
Admin said:
So I take the time to respond with the below...
Hey there...
I don't dare suggest to anyone in the open forums where to go if they want the help they seek as that would - I do however make it available that if they want help, they're more than free to contact me OUTSIDE of the forum. I see nothing wrong with giving people direction to the info that they're looking for. But since you've been watching / noticing my posts, you've already realized that there are a number of people who are looking for something that is NOT here...
I'm not about to get into an argument with you regarding this, as it's a no-win situation as far as I'm concerned. My reasons for helping those that want it are simple: I want to give back to the community that's helped me. It's pretty obvious by the lack of responses to the numerous questions posed that people are looking for help - help that's not here anymore for various reasons. I dare suggest that if you were about the community as you claim to be, you'd understand that this isn't a personal thing, but one of trying to ensure that the GMT community has access to the best information - regardless of its location.
I'm sure you're aware that the folks over on GMTN acknowledge the fact that TV is a great place for archival info and actually encourage people to visit. You guys (VS) may want to reciprocate that and realize that GMTN is a great place for current knowledge & info - just based on who is actually answering the numerous questions posed.
It's not always about having the most "views" or "eyes" on your site that makes it great.
I know that you and your 2 mods (who seemed to have disappeared as of late) want the site to return to its former glory, but with everything that's gone on, is that really possible? Take a close look at the "Introductions" and see how many posts go unanswered... it never used to be like that...
And you're right, the choice is mine... and for now, I chose to stay and help those looking for help not available here, find it elsewhere. As an enthusiast, that shouldn't pose a problem for you. It's quite possible that in the near future I'll simply say "screw it" and the noobies and the "wanna-be mods" try to figure out the nuances of the TB / Envoy, but for now I'll do what I can to help the noobs - I was one of them too.
Cheers.
So... how much longer until I've joined that illustrious list too??
tricguy007
Member
- Dec 7, 2011
- 131
CdnGMan said:Ok, so over the last week or so, I've "instructed" some noobs on the OS on where to come to get the service manuals and the like... and today I get this from the "Admin"...
So I take the time to respond with the below...
Hey there...
I don't dare suggest to anyone in the open forums where to go if they want the help they seek as that would - I do however make it available that if they want help, they're more than free to contact me OUTSIDE of the forum. I see nothing wrong with giving people direction to the info that they're looking for. But since you've been watching / noticing my posts, you've already realized that there are a number of people who are looking for something that is NOT here...
I'm not about to get into an argument with you regarding this, as it's a no-win situation as far as I'm concerned. My reasons for helping those that want it are simple: I want to give back to the community that's helped me. It's pretty obvious by the lack of responses to the numerous questions posed that people are looking for help - help that's not here anymore for various reasons. I dare suggest that if you were about the community as you claim to be, you'd understand that this isn't a personal thing, but one of trying to ensure that the GMT community has access to the best information - regardless of its location.
I'm sure you're aware that the folks over on GMTN acknowledge the fact that TV is a great place for archival info and actually encourage people to visit. You guys (VS) may want to reciprocate that and realize that GMTN is a great place for current knowledge & info - just based on who is actually answering the numerous questions posed.
It's not always about having the most "views" or "eyes" on your site that makes it great.
I know that you and your 2 mods (who seemed to have disappeared as of late) want the site to return to its former glory, but with everything that's gone on, is that really possible? Take a close look at the "Introductions" and see how many posts go unanswered... it never used to be like that...
And you're right, the choice is mine... and for now, I chose to stay and help those looking for help not available here, find it elsewhere. As an enthusiast, that shouldn't pose a problem for you. It's quite possible that in the near future I'll simply say "screw it" and the noobies and the "wanna-be mods" try to figure out the nuances of the TB / Envoy, but for now I'll do what I can to help the noobs - I was one of them too.
Cheers.
So... how much longer until I've joined that illustrious list too??
Well I hope they dont boot you since you directed me here yesterday, glad I found this site after only 1 day as a member of the (Other site). Ive only owned my Trailblazer for a week now and the Ifo I have found is awesome, thanks for being here.
- Jun 8, 2012
- 238
Vosper said:
Welcome Vosper! Since you were only on the old site for one day, you don't need to worry too much about the "trickery" that goes on on TrailVoy. You have come to the right place to educate yourself on all things with your new vehicle. Generally speaking, someone here on this site will have the exact answer you are looking for, or in the rare case that no one does, many will try to advise/assist you in discovering the answers you seek, even if that means steering you to the archives on the old site. As mentioned before, TrailVoy was for all intents and purposes "built" into what it is or rather once was by the true enthusiasts and members who now currently reside here on GMTN. Feel free to ask away with any of your questions as there are no dumb questions (or at least you won't be ridiculed here). Just do yourself and everyone here one favor, and don't ask about that pesky little red wire near the battery that's unhooked! BINGA said:
Already read about that wire even though I havent noticed it yet.. But I am Intrested in finding out how to get a GMT sticker.